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Ali Sina Calls for Armed Opposition in Iran

 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Ali Sina Calls for Armed Opposition in Iran Reply with quote

I guess at this point, this is where the Republicans (non-monarchists) are at ?

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina40909.htm

Ali Sina of Faithfreedom.org is calling for Armed Opposition in Iran

The head of this snake is in Iran
By Ali Sina
09/09/04

In an article titled Mullahs of Iran are paymasters of terror, US military analysts Lieutenant-General Thomas McInerney and Major-General Paul Vallely (both retired) accused the Mullahs of Iran of meddling in Iraq and tying to destabilize Iraq and achieve strategic dominance in the Middle East and Central Asia . They recognized that Iran is behind the cleric Al Sadr and that the standoff in Najaf was orchestrated by them.

The generals wrote:
“ Iran 's strategic ambitions and its prominence in global terrorism are nothing new.

Despite the hopes of many governments, the widespread popular unrest and internal power struggles of the late 1990s did not result in a more democratic, less aggressive Iran . Instead, the mullahs dropped any pretence of adhering to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, issued apocalyptic warnings about the revenge they would exact should Israel attack Iran 's nuclear facilities and accelerated their ballistic missile program.”

They stated that according to Israeli intelligence the Mullahs are preparing their Palestinian proxies to seize power in a post Yasser Arafat era. And blaming the Mullahs for the spread of the international terrorism they wrote:

“In Iraq , Iran aims to replicate its successes in Lebanon . Since Iraq 's liberation, Iran has provided weapons, money and personnel to militant Shiite groups - including al-Sadr's - with the apparent goal of establishing an Iraqi version of Hezbollah that, in time, would establish de facto Iranian control over Shiite Iraq. Despite his setback in Najaf, al-Sadr almost certainly will continue to do his masters' bidding.”

Increasingly the American government and their military analysts are realizing that the problems of Iraq and International terrorism are in great part rooted in Iran and until the problem of Iran is not resolved the situation in Iraq has little hope to be resolved.

The Generals recommended “It is imperative that the US immediately and forcefully check Iran , inside and outside of Iraq .” And suggested: “the Iraqi interim government should immediately break relations with Tehran , citing Iran 's support of anti-government subversion and secure its borders against Iranian infiltration.”

Ironically in Najaf religious ceremonies, there are more Iranians than Iraqis. Recently several boxes of ammunitions were confiscated that had labels in Farsi. This clearly proves that they originated from Iran . McInerney and Vallely suggested that “until its security situation improves, Iraq must deny entry to Iranian pilgrims.”

But these are all temporary measure. We have to shift our attention from band aid kind of solutions to real cure. The generals acknowledged:

“Of course, the best way to end the threat posed by Iran is to end the mullahs' rule of Iran . To that end, the US and other countries also must revive democratic opposition groups in Iran through both overt aid and covert support. They also should create the nucleus of an armed resistance movement by removing the Iranian exile group, the Mujahideen-e-Khalq from the US State Department's list of terrorist organisations. It's time to rearm its 4000 trained fighters.”

Although Iranians have denounced violence in principle and for the last twenty five years tried to bring change to Iran peacefully and even tried in vain to work within and reform the present regime, it is clear that the Mullahs, like their other Islamic terrorist allies understand one language and that is force. They came to power through terrorism and will not go away unless they are forced to. Mujahedeen-e-Khalq should be unlisted as a terrorist organization and its members should be welcomed to join the rest of Iranians in their struggle against axis of evil. The regrettable mass arrest of the French government of this group was in fact to appease the Mullahs and sign favorable contracts. USA must support the armed resistance in Iran and help the formation of a provisional government to oversee the struggle. To avoid later struggle for power and a civil war, all the resistance must come under the leadership of a provisional government that is not allied to any political faction and is comprised of all the opposition forces. The armed resistance should be trained to take over the cities of Iran with backing of the US military force but more than anything else win the confidence of the Iranians disaffected with the regime so they join the army of liberation. The key here is that Iranians should be in charge of the liberation of their country and not the Americans.

Thanks to the Iranian Mullahs the war in Iraq has become a nightmare. The war against the Mullahs will be much easier. Iran is the last powerful axis of evil in the region. After the fall of the Mullahs, no other country will finance terrorism. Also once the Mullahs are attacked they will shift their war into defensive mode and Iraq will have a better chance to gain stability.

McInerney and Vallely conclude that Iraq ’s success depends on the resolution of Iranian problem. At this point America is fighting a defensive war in Iraq . Defensive wars are losing wars. America must take the lead once again and launch an offensive war against international Islamic terrorism. The head of this snake is in Tehran .

This war is against Islamic terrorism. Afghanistan and Iraq were just two battles of this war. If we stop now we lose. The war must continue and now the next battle must be fought in Iran . The good news is that in this battle the Iranians are willing to be the foot soldiers. This would be the most definitive and may be the last major battle against terrorism. But unlike Afghanistan and Iraq , it would be swift and requires little effort on the part of America .
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what about the armed opposition that Sina is promoting, for the US to support the MKO as Iran's Northern Alliance, while training and arming opposition groups in Iran?

There's only a couple of thousand MKO in Iraq, and their internal network has been dessimated over the years, altho it may amount to a couple of thousand inside of Iran, or maybe more, I don't know. Combined its not enough. It might work in conjunction with other groups as backup for mass strikes, protests etc.

Sina should know that in the last revolution it was the combination of protests, mass strikes, civil disobediance, and armed revolutionary groups, not just armed groups. Of course the most important thing about the last revolution was that the Shah surrendered the govt., and the military refused to back Bakhtiar's transitional govt. In other words the Mullah$ have to give up, and the Revolutionary Guards have to declare their neutrality for the same results this time.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Mr. Sina,

I do admire, respect and appreciate your conviction, hard work and courage to reveal the truth about Islam. I also agree with you that terrorism is only the symptom and the real problems are the criminal mullahs and the religionŐs ideology behind terrorism.

As everyone knows there are three (3) Adam & Eve based religions last of which is Islam. All three (3) Adam & Eve based religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam have participated in terrorism throughout history and I will argue, they still do. Some directly and some indirectly are engaged in terrorism all over the world.

I must agree with you again, that we are indeed one people and all of us are members of one family of human kind! I also agree with the fact that Muhammad was not a messenger of God, but neither was Essah or Jesus and nor was Moses a messenger from any God.

- - The bigger the lie, the sooner people will believe it. - -

By you attacking and demystifying just Islam, you are creating an impression that the other two (2) Adam & Eve based religions are not reprehensible and somehow better, just and not having a disgraceful history of bigotry, prejudice, intolerance, genocide and anti-women behaviors. Just like Islam. All religions are nonsense and man made. We should not just single out Islam. We must say it like it is.

Through Imperialistic colonial wars the good civilized loving Judeo-Christians killed and robbed millions upon millions of Asian people, African people and Native American people. Even today, in the twenty-first (21st) century, the Judeo-Christians are still engaged in regional wars and actively killing and stealing from the very same victims.

These colonial genocides and wars have formed a very strong ideology of revenge, which is fueling the fire of terrorism.

It was not a Muslim Nation but rather European nations, the good civilized loving Judeo-Christians who used biological weapons, (germ warfare) on the Native Americans, killing millions of them.

It was not a Muslim Nation but rather European nations, the good civilized loving Judeo-Christians who used chemical weapons in War World I, killing millions of their own.

It was not a Muslim Nation but rather Europeans and Americans, the good civilized loving Judeo-Christians who killed ninety-eight million (98,000,000) people in War World II and detonated Atomic bombs, not once, but twice against Japan.

My point is that the three (3) Adam & Eve based religions are as equally corrupt and destructive. We cannot keep two of them who started this whole nonsense and try to get rid of the third one. The exclusion of Islam and the inclusion of Judaism and Christianity will cause horrifying religious wars.

I must say for the record that I am neither a member nor a believer of any religion.

Best regards,

Bahram Maskanian
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What d'ya know, here's another piece asking for the US to support the MKO in forming the 'nucleus' of an armed resistance and opposition movement against the Mullah$ in Iran, this time from the Wall Street Journal.

What is this a new trend?

Mullahs of Iran are paymasters of terror
Sep 09
Wall Street Journal
Thomas McInerney and Paul Vallely | Dow Jones Newswires

As thankful as we are that Moqtada al-Sadr's rebellion did not end in a bloody and destructive battle for the Imam Ali Grand Mosque in Najaf, our gratitude is tempered by the realisation that this revolt was not an isolated event. Like al-Sadr himself, the Najaf stand-off was created by Iran and was only part of Iran's latest effort to destabilise Iraq and achieve strategic dominance in the Middle East and Central Asia.

Iran's strategic ambitions and its prominence in global terrorism are nothing new.

Despite the hopes of many governments, the widespread popular unrest and internal power struggles of the late 1990s did not result in a more democratic, less aggressive Iran. Instead, the mullahs dropped any pretence of adhering to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, issued apocalyptic warnings about the revenge they would exact should Israel attack Iran's nuclear facilities and accelerated their ballistic missile program. Iran is as close as ever to Syria and Palestinian terrorist groups such as Hamas.

Now, Israeli intelligence sources tell us, it is preparing its Palestinian proxies to seize power when Yasser Arafat's regime collapses.

In Iraq, Iran aims to replicate its successes in Lebanon. Since Iraq's liberation, Iran has provided weapons, money and personnel to militant Shiite groups - including al-Sadr's - with the apparent goal of establishing an Iraqi version of Hezbollah that, in time, would establish de facto Iranian control over Shiite Iraq. Despite his setback in Najaf, al-Sadr almost certainly will continue to do his masters' bidding.

It is imperative that the US immediately and forcefully check Iran, inside and outside of Iraq.

The Iraqi interim government should immediately break relations with Tehran, citing Iran's support of anti-government subversion and secure its borders against Iranian infiltration. The Iranians cynically use religious pilgrimages to move men, materiel and money into Iraq; therefore, until its security situation improves, Iraq must deny entry to Iranian pilgrims.

Of course, the best way to end the threat posed by Iran is to end the mullahs' rule of Iran. To that end, the US and other countries also must revive democratic opposition groups in Iran through both overt aid and covert support. They also should create the nucleus of an armed resistance movement by removing the Iranian exile group, the Mujahideen-e-Khalq from the US State Department's list of terrorist organisations. It's time to rearm its 4000 trained fighters.

We understand these suggestions will strike some as too strong. Considering, however, that Iran is poised to make a play for regional dominance, our counter-move must be the strongest we have ever made in the 25-year cold war with Iran. Iraq's success depends on it.

Lieutenant-General Thomas McInerney (retired) and Major-General Paul Vallely (retired) are US military analysts and co-authors of Endgame: The Blueprint for Victory in the War on Terror (Regnery, 2004)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo Bahram Maskanian,

It is the religion of Islam that is currently behind the massacre, genocides and killings going on in the majority of the world's military conflicts from C'ote D'ilvoire, Algeria, and Sudan in Afirca to Chechneya, to all over the Middle East, to as far as East Timur. It would be a good idea to deal with current events dear clueless Islamist propogandist, because the rest of the world is and that is why you and your buddies are in so much trouble!

PS. Stop trashing the good Persian name of Bahram, with your Islamist Colonial propoganda, take an Arab name.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:07 am    Post subject: Spenta you are making it painfully obvious Reply with quote

Spenta wrote:
Yo Bahram Maskanian,

It is the religion of Islam that is currently behind the massacre, genocides and killings going on in the majority of the world's military conflicts from C'ote D'ilvoire, Algeria, and Sudan in Afirca to Chechneya, to all over the Middle East, to as far as East Timur. It would be a good idea to deal with current events dear clueless Islamist propogandist, because the rest of the world is and that is why you and your buddies are in so much trouble!

PS. Stop trashing the good Persian name of Bahram, with your Islamist Colonial propoganda, take an Arab name.


Bahram Maskanian wrote:

My point is that the three (3) Adam & Eve based religions are as equally corrupt and destructive. We cannot keep two of them who started this whole nonsense and try to get rid of the third one. The exclusion of Islam and the inclusion of Judaism and Christianity will cause horrifying religious wars.

I must say for the record that I am neither a member nor a believer of any religion.

Best regards,

Bahram Maskanian


Thoma Paine wrote:

Spenta,
You are making it painfully obvious that you are not very bright. You are ignorant of the world around you and obviously cannot even read. Take a night class and learn how to read. Read nonfiction books, expand your horizon a little. Before attacking some one who is a know figure and has written so much about democracy and non-violence political movement like Mr. Maskanian, you need to get to know the man first.

Educate yourself, this is Mr. MaskanianŐs website: http://www.venusproject.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas - I would take a bit more effort in checking the things you say to fellow activists who are proven supporters and activists of Iranian freedom. You are in no position to bash Spenta first and foremost.. Secondly - Bahram I believe is incorrect when he goes on his rants bashing all religions.. This is a matter of fanatics abusing religion, and not about religions being inherently bad. Religions, as practiced the way they should and intended can do many great things for society. they also open up the possibility that evil men can abuse and manipulate the religion for their own schemes..

Supporting the MKO to overthrow the regime is an idiotic idea. I agree with Spenta, that perhaps they could be used, but only conjunction with an overall massive civil disobedience, etc..

The Mullahs regime can be overthrown with massive civil disobediance - and it doesn't have ot end in major death and violence - THE MULLAHS WANT MAJOR DESTRUCTION AND VIOLENCE..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:32 am    Post subject: Another Brain Surgeon Reply with quote


Hey redemption, you must be another brain surgeon, I thought Spenta was the top idiot! Spenta and you, redemption, should redeem your-selves and then take a history class together.

Mr. Maskanian is absolutely correct in saying that all religions ever sine their inception have been burning books, scientists and philosophers, looting, killing and destroying people's lives and properties.

Mullahs of all religions have been and they are still today in the business of manipulating and controlling social policies for their own gains only. All of them: Hinduism, Mithraism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and the final **** Islam.

Mullahs of all religions are parasites who habitually take advantage of the stupidity and generosity of the people without making any useful return.

Mullahs have only one goal, to disable the society in which they live and become the social elites the superior beings and tell people how to have sex, what to eat, how to calculate and pay their religious taxes and generally treat people like idiots and to run peoples lives and business.

Today's Crusade Wars are waged though elaborate economical takeovers of other countries markets and natural resources.

Have you heard? It is called GLOBALIZATION!

GO A HEAD SAY SOMETHING INTELLIGENT, COMEON!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas, you're not worth my time...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the ppl in iran take all take their money out of the banks the regime will be otherthown in less than a week
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Hey redemption, you must be another brain surgeon, I thought Spenta was the top idiot! Spenta and you, redemption, should redeem your-selves and then take a history class together.


and private message to me of:

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Spenta you are making it painfully obvious that you are not very bright. You are ignorant of the world around you and obviously cant read either.


If insults are all you have, then we're not interested.

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Violence alone will not get rid of the Mullah$, but a combination of atleast 2 of the below will most likely work, and all of the options below together will definately get rid of them

1. Civil disobediance movement and protests

2. National Strike

3. Armed Opposition

4. International sanctions and economic embargo

5. Full support from the western leadership for regime change in Iran.


And I suppose withdrawing money from banks would add to it too.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Brain Surgeon Reply with quote

Thomas_Paine wrote:

Hey redemption, you must be another brain surgeon, I thought Spenta was the top idiot! Spenta and you, redemption, should redeem your-selves and then take a history class together.

Mr. Maskanian is absolutely correct


Dear Thomas Paine, Bahram Maskanian:

Your posts are welcome, but please stick to your first nick and stop applauding yourself and bashing at others with the second ID: Thomas!

If you have to trash our friends, be "brave" enough to use your zodo name "Bahram Maskanian" the author!

or change Mr. Thomas's fonts so it's not so obviously similar to your posts.

Ty.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

politeness is not the same as intelligence. A truly wise man remarked once that religon is the opiate of the masses. Take a moment and think about it, Religion can possibly be put down to the level of a placebo - but at the same time it can be raised to the cosmological reason for our existence. Interesting no? The dualities of mankind are endless...
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