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Why the British Should Not VOTE FOR BLAIR?
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Election results show a swing of about 35-40 seats toward the Conservatives, about 12-15 seats toward the Lib Dems, the latter mainly on the Iraq war issue. An independent who had visited Baghdad and praised Saddam before the war won a majority Muslim district against a Blair supporter in London. Razz

Perhaps a minor hit for supporters of Iran Liberation, unless anti-war Laborites and LibDems can be convinced to support sanctions and soft support for internal democratic efforts from a war prevention/nuke prevention and simple human rights perspective.
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Here's the take of Christopher Hitchens (the left-wing regime-change Bush supporter) on the British election. His look at Blair gives some hope to this supporter of Iran's liberation. By the way, the Conservatives actually took a few net seats from the anti-war Lib Dems, so the total shift in favor of isolationism/pacifism is in single digits.

fighting words
Long Live Labor
Why I'm for Tony Blair.
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, April 25, 2005, at 2:14 PM PT

I joined the British Labor Party as soon as I was old enough to be eligible, which was sometime in 1965. I was not long after that expelled from its ranks, along with the majority of the Labor students' organization, because of Prime Minister Harold Wilson's contemptible support for the war in Vietnam. (I should have resigned, but I waited to be expelled instead.) Since then I have re-enlisted a few times, canvassed in a desultory way, off-and-on paid my dues, and hosted the odd Labor figure in Washington. It wouldn't have been thinkable for me to vote for any other party at election time, though in the 1979 election the Callaghan regime had become so corrupt and incompetent and reactionary that I didn't vote at all.

On May 5, 40 years after I first took out a membership card, it will be possible, for the first time since the 1945 Labor victory that threw out the Churchill Tories, to vote Labor on a point of principle. Sixty years is a long time to wait, but the struggle for Iraq has decided the matter.

Arguing about the war in Britain is quite different, in point of tone and alignment, from debating it in the United States. True, there is in both countries a huge mass of media and showbiz and academic liberals who take the very name "George Bush" as permission to bid adieu to common sense. But in the press there is quite a determined posse of staunch left-wingers (John Lloyd, Nick Cohen, David Aaronovitch) who support regime change. The same is true on the benches of Parliament, where Ann Clwyd, a veteran Welsh radical, has for years been campaigning for the removal of Saddam Hussein. Several old friends of mine from the Sixties Left hold positions in Blair's government and never let an anti-war argument go unchallenged.

Meanwhile, most of the groaning and sniping about the missing WMDs comes from the hard right, which has a hold on the Tory party and more than a hold on the tabloid press. Anti-Americanism in Britain has long been a conservative rather than a radical trope, and dislike for George Bush is very common among the aristocratic remnant, as well as among those who are nostalgic for the British empire that America supplanted after the war. That especial form of British anti-Semitism ("You catch it on the edge of a remark," as Harold Abrahams puts it so well in Chariots of Fire) is beautifully ventriloquized in the way that certain BBC announcers pronounce the name "Wolfowitz."

The commonest liberal and Tory jeer against Tony Blair—that he is George Bush's "poodle"—is self-evidently false. Far from being a ditto to Washington, it was Blair who leaned on Clinton and Albright to intervene in the Balkans, putting an end to the long and disgusting Tory appeasement of Slobodan Milosevic. Without asking for any American approval, Blair also decided to stand by Britain's treaty with Sierra Leone and to send troops to put down the barbaric invasion of the hand-loppers and diamond-dealers, based in Charles Taylor's Liberia, who were among other things the regional allies of al-Qaida. In 1999, when Bush was still an isolationist governor of Texas, Blair made a speech in Chicago pointing out that Saddam Hussein's defiance of international law made a future confrontation with him inevitable. After Sept. 11, 2001, Blair told Bush that he would send ground troops to Afghanistan even if the United States would not.

Other considerations inflect the picture, altering the misleading liberal-vs.-conservative divide that our media have imposed on the argument. Blair's Britain is a sort of post-Keynesian full-employment and welfarist society. Its government makes at least the right noises about Kyoto, the U.N., Palestine, and the International Criminal Court. Thus there are fewer opportunities for anti-war voices to change the subject. And the anti-Bush/Blair "left" has, to its credit, been perfectly honest in identifying itself both with Saddam Hussein and with Islamic fundamentalism.

The most interesting local campaign of this election is being fought in East London, in the constituency of Bethnal Green, where the sitting Labor member is being challenged by the veteran Stalinist George Galloway. Oona King, the incumbent, is a woman of mixed African and Jewish descent who is attacked by the local Nazi party—itself anti-war—on both grounds. She has also been pelted with eggs and stones by Muslim thugs who stress the Jewish element of her heritage. Mr. Galloway's bloc is made up of the renegade pseudo-Bolsheviks of the Socialist Workers Party, its arms newly linked with the Muslim Association of Britain. He himself was a personal friend of Saddam Hussein's and a loud advocate of Ba'ath Party rule. He was expelled from the Labor Party when he called for jihad against British soldiers. Thus, the most reactionary forces in British society are fused in their admiration of the one-party state and the one-god movement. Or they nearly are: Last week a gang of supporters of the Hizb ut-Tahrir fundamentalist movement invaded the offices of the Muslim Association of Britain and ambushed George Galloway in the street, promising eternal hellfire to anyone so un-Islamic as to take part in an election at all. This of course is the doctrine preached by Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq. How satisfying that those who support the Iraqi "insurgency" from a safe distance have now received a taste of its real character.

There are things to dislike about Tony Blair. His rather sickly piety is one, and his liberal authoritarianism, on matters such as smoking and fox-hunting, is another. I can't forgive him for calling Diana Spencer "the People's Princess," or for seeking the approval of the Fleet Street rags, and he is one of those politicians who seems to think that staying "on message" is an achievement in itself. Nonetheless, he took a bold stand against the establishment and against a sullen public opinion and did so on a major issue of principle. It is absolutely necessary that his right-wing and clerical enemies be humiliated at the polls.

Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair and a regular contributor to Slate. His most recent book is Love, Poverty and War. He is also the author of A Long Short War: The Postponed Liberation of Iraq and of Blood, Class and Empire.

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From Spenta Post: http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1571

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The Filthy Colonialist British are Deporting Dying Iranian Asylum Applicants for Execution to their Mullah Buddies Yet Again! Evil or Very Mad


The shameful support of the Islamist Iranian Mullahcracy by the British government is perhaps one of the most repulsive acts of modern day Neo Colonialism in our world!

The way and manner in which the British government installed this barbaric Mullahcracy and has continued to act as its protector and champion is offensive to any democratic minded person anywhere in our world!

The shameless British are responsible for 25 years of Islamist genocide, torture, mass imprisonment, despotic rule, oppression, stonings, amputations, poverty, ethnic cleansing, misogyny, and child molestation of the Iranian people in the hands of the Mullahcracy they installed and continue to sponsor, all in return for the mass looting of Iran's oil and gas.

Even though their own laws prevent an asylum applicant from being deported if they risk death and torture they are deporting 3 Kurdish dissidents to Iran for execution. Why? The men are scheduled for execution, and the British have no intention of doing anything other than handing them over to their Mullah buddies for execution. I don't support all the political beliefs of these individuals, however I cannot imagine how the British government could break their own laws in order to accomodate the Mullahs' massacres! The Greed and avarice of the Colinilaist British is frankly offensive to any human being in our world!

The British are the single most disgusting and Repulsive Colonialists of all time, they have no honor, no decency, no humanity of any kind. Shame on the Filthy British and their Filthy Islamist Colonialist Mullahcracy!


Ban all British Products.

Do not buy anything made in the U.K.

Use every chance you have to educate the world about the filthy Colonialist practices of the British government in Iran

Write to the British government letting them know what the Iranian people think about the Islamist Colonial hell that they have created in Iran, and what you think about their shameful and repulsive sponsorship of the Mullahcracy, and their shameful abuse of Iranian asylum applicants!

Demonstrate outside British embassies all over the world on behalf of the oppressed people of Iran.



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http://www.sundayherald.com/40451

Execution threat for hunger strikers facing deportation

By Neil Mackay, Home Affairs Editor
07 March 2004


THE three Kurdish refugees who are on hunger strike in Glasgow in protest at their deportation to Iran are being expelled from the UK despite the Labour government’s policy of never deporting anyone to a country where they might face the death penalty.

The men – Faroq Haidari, Fariboz Gravindi and Mokhtar Haydary – are now on their 17th day of hunger strike. The three, who have sewn up their mouths, have all refused medical intervention.

They argue they were dissidents in Iran as they supported democratic reforms and a form of home rule for Kurds. Habib Kharabi, the uncle of hunger-striker Mokhtar Haydary, was executed by the regime for political activities.

The US routinely refers to Iran as part of the “Axis of Evil” and the Foreign Office has highlighted public executions, trials behind closed doors and the suppression of dissent in the country. A recent fundamentalist crackdown in Iran forced the fledgling reformist movement underground.

The Home Office has previously publicly stated that “the policy of this government is that the Home Secretary, David Blunkett, will not allow anyone to be deported who is knowingly going to face torture or the death penalty.”

Yet the Home Office said the men would be deported regardless of their protest.

SNP leader John Swinney said: “ There seems to be a direct danger to these men if they are sent back to their home country and this case is evidence that there are weaknesses in the current asylum system .”

Tom Harris, the Labour MP for Cathcart – the area where the three men are residing – says he is to fight for them to stay in the UK . Harris, who has visited the men, said: “I asked them to stop their hunger strike immediately.” He added: “Their case is not helped by what they are doing, in fact it is positively harming their case.”

Harris said the men had “ strong arguments to stay”, but the Home Office would not be able to take “an objective view” of the case because it would look like the government had been “strong-armed” into reversing its decision.

Harris has already written twice to the Home Office and spoken to ministers. “I’ve said, in my view, that due to the political deterioration in Iran, they should at least give them temporary leave to stay.”

Mike Watson, Labour MSP for Cathcart, said he was fully behind Harris. However, the Scottish Executive has refused to comment claiming immigration is a matter for Westminster .

Glasgow City Council, which is to evict the men, said it was legally bound to throw them out . A spokesman said: “I know this sounds cold and heartless given the situation, but this is our only course of action. We aren’t involved in the decision- making process. ”

The council is in discussion with the National Asylum Support Service (NASS) over what to do with the men – two of whom are barely conscious – when they are evicted.


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http://www.sundayherald.com/40416

‘SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO RISK DEATH TO LIVE …’
07 March 2004


As a hunger strike by three failed asylum seekers in a Glasgow bedsit nears its tragic end, one of the men tells Home Affairs Editor Neil Mackay why they were driven to it


THERE is an elegant, leafy street on the suburban southside of Glasgow called Cathkin Road. Inside a ground-floor flat in one of the houses that line the street, three men are lying on blood-stained mattresses on the floor of a squalid single room, their lips sown shut by their own hands, slowly and quietly starving themselves to death.

After 17 days of hunger strike, two are almost permanently unconscious. The third is permanently awake, frozen into insomnia, he says, by fear during his self-imposed ordeal. These men – Faroq Haidari, 32, Fariboz Gravindi, 30 and Mokhtar Haydary, 34 – are all Kurds who have fled from Iran, a part of the so-called Axis of Evil. They have all sought asylum in the UK and they have all been refused, and now they are all to be deported. They all believe that if they return to Iran they will be executed. All three are also to be evicted from their home and thrown out on to the street by Glasgow City Council pending their final removal from the UK.

Their hunger strike has a brutal simplicity, says the insomniac Haidari . “We cannot go home. If we go home, we will be killed. Better to die here like men through our own choice, than to be executed in Iran.”

Haidari’s lips, like those of his friends, are strung together with three stitches. His stitches – put in with an ordinary sewing needle – are looser than those of the other two men, allowing him to part his lips half an inch so he can make himself understood. In this flat where the Kurds have chosen to die, a series of friends and wellwishers, mostly campaigners from pro-refugee organisations, come and go, giving their love and support. There are tears as they leave. “We’re watching people live out the last days of their lives,” one says. “Who wouldn’t cry?”

On Thursday afternoon, Haidari finds the strength to talk for about an hour. In the early hours of that morning, Gravindi and Haydary had lost consciousness. Haidari had feared they were dead. An Iranian friend, who is also to be deported and who watches over them day and night, had called an ambulance, which rushed them to the Victoria Infirmary.

While Haidari talked , his friends were put on saline drips. They awoke after an hour and angrily ordered the medics to stop treatment. Everyone – doctors, friends, campaigners – pleaded with them not to refuse hospital help, but they insisted on no medical intervention. The doctors had no option but to agree. Later the men returned home and almost immediately slipped back into unconsciousness.

In those few hours, while his friends were away, Haidari talked about his life and the life of his friends; about what brought three men from thousands of miles away to a dirty bedsit in Glasgow to die. While he talked, he dabbed his mouth with a tissue, wiping away the blood that leaks from his lips as the stitches pull at his flesh; his face a grimace of pain.

Haidari slowly began. “We lived in fear of our government in Iran. When we escaped, we escaped torture, injustice, execution and persecution. That is why I cannot understand why we have been refused asylum in your country. We have no option left but this hunger strike. Believe me when I say we are prepared to die. We are Kurds. The Iran regime persecutes us politically, religiously and ethnically. To live longer in this world, we had to escape. Put yourself in my shoes. If you were in danger, would you run?

“There have been many executions of Kurds since the 1979 Islamic revolution. The UK accepts that Iran is dangerous, that it is not a democracy, that there is no freedom. But still they want to send us home. People – my family – are too scared even in their own houses to talk about the government. It is like Nazi Germany.

“When I stitched my lips, the pain was extraordinary, but I wanted to show the UK government that the human rights they talk about don’t exist. We are saying, ‘We’ve had enough of talk; no-one will listen to us anyway.’

“We are not doing this for benefits from your welfare state. Who would suffer this for such a thing? We are doing it to save our lives; to show politicians that we deserve asylum. There is a big difference between your government and the people. We have so many good friends among Scots people. If I could talk to [Home Secretary] David Blunkett I’d say to him, ‘Put yourself in my position, not for a year, not for a month, but just for a week. If you knew you were in danger, what would you do to change your life?’

“No-one wants to die. I’m young. I’d like to ask the ordinary people of Scotland to make the politicians listen to us. They must understand what we are going through. I just hope that Scottish politicians can put pressure on the UK parliament. I live here in Scotland so they must be able to act for me. It’s scary thinking about what we are doing. But if anything happens to us then your government is responsible.

“We are not doing this because of religion. We are Muslims and respect our religion, but we believe that religion and politics do not mix. We are doing this because we are hopeless, we have no-one to help us and nowhere to go. Sometimes you have to risk death to live.

“Time passes so slowly here. It’s strange, but this is actually boring. I think of death, but I have to be brave. I’m tired. I can’t walk. My mind plays tricks on me. I haven’t slept in 24 hours. I was in hospital for 48 hours last week because I had refused all water for many days, now I am drinking because I need to keep this fight going. I’m also very lonely. Day by day I am forgetting how to eat; how I used to eat.

“We have had no contact with the Home Office since this began more than two weeks ago. They don’t care – that is shameful. I won’t give up. When Kurds say something we stand by it even if it means the loss of our lives. Kurdish people are hard. We stand by our promises. I’m scared that if my parents know what is going on that it will kill them. I love them very much. The first time I was away from my family was when I arrived in Britain. Now I’m living like this.’’

What did take this young man away from the family he loves? All three came from Kermanshah on the border with Iraq. The city is still mined from the Iran-Iraq war. As children they grew up seeing public executions. Hangings, beheadings, women stoned to death. One of the hunger-strikers, Mokhtar Haydary’s uncle, Habib Kharabi, a member of the Kurdish Democratic Party, was executed by the regime. Haidari grew up in a prosperous, well-educated middle-class family. They sold televisions, fridges and CD players for a living. The one thing his family did lack, however, was their own culture. Writing in Kurdish was banned, he says, and he is more proficient at writing in English than Kurdish.

All three were part of the so-called “reformist generation” – young students in the 1990s who wanted to roll back the power of the ayatollahs. They wanted a centrist democratic state and were drawn to the moderate “third way” politics of Western leaders like Tony Blair and Bill Clinton. They also wanted some degree of autonomy for the Kurds. None were separatists, instead they sought a form of devolved home rule.

The three hunger-strikers all belonged to a group that campaigned for democracy which was infiltrated and betrayed by state spies. These men were not revolutionaries – violence wasn’t their way – so, faced with repression, they decided to flee. A number chose to go to Norway, and secured almost immediate asylum. Others, like the three hunger-strikers, opted for Britain, attracted by New Labour and its much-vaunted claims of an “ethical foreign policy”.

One night, three years, ago, Iranian security forces came to arrest Haidari. He ran. When the three fled, they handed themselves – and $5000 each – to a “people smuggler”. It took a month, locked mostly in a closed container, to travel across Europe. They landed in Dover in 2001. “It is not hard to be persecuted by the Iranian government if you’re Kurdish,” Haidari whispers. “If you say anything against them you will be arrested, tortured and jailed. There will be no lawyer, no justice. I left because I was in serious danger. This story belongs to all of us. It is not just about me. All three of us escaped; risked our lives. In fact, this is not a story – this is our reality.”

Since he began his fast, Haidari has lost around three stones and only seen a doctor three times. “I don’t need a doctor,” he says. “I need a solution.”

Margaret Woods, of the Glasgow Campaign to Welcome Refugees, is something of a mother figure to these dying men. “There are 170 refugees now homeless in Glasgow as they’ve been thrown out of their flats because their asylum claims have been turned down. Like these men, they all face deportation – many to places where they could be executed. I am terribly distressed by this. These are human beings reduced to an act as desperate as this in Glasgow, in a grotty bedsit, in a country I was raised in. It is so disillusioning. What is happening goes against all ideas of human rights.

“Imagine being one flight away from torture in a hell-hole of a prison. I don’t advocate what they’re doing, but I understand why they’ve been driven to it. I’ve got to know them and they are utterly determined to die if they are not allowed to stay. Before Fariboz Gravindi lost consciousness, he said to me, ‘I want to make a statement before I die: there is no freedom in this country.’

“It seems to me the only freedom left to them is the freedom to die. That’s an appalling indictment of our society.”

On Friday, Bill Speirs, general secretary of the STUC, arrived to see the hunger strikers. He was visibly shaken. “Here are three young men who, if they were Scots, would be part of New Labour. They’ve been reduced to this state rather than face going home to die in some horrible way; they would rather die horribly here. This is real. It’s vital that the Home Office overturns its decision to expel them. What gets me is that we are sending them back to the Axis of Evil. Think of the double standards.”

Speirs urged the men to take water. He said: “It is a legitimate tactic in a hunger strike. They want to win; they don’t want to die. They want a result; we don’t want martyrs.” He added: “The responsibility for this lies with Blair and Blunkett. If these three men win, they will have secured a victory that will always be remembered; if they die it won’t be on Blunkett’s conscience – he doesn’t think like that.

“I’m very, very shocked by what I’ve seen here, and I’m angry . We are not a country that needs to behave like this towards people who came here believing we would help them. What’s happening in that room is a nightmare. In Glasgow, people are starving themselves to death with sewn-up lips. It is a blot on our country that these men have been forced to this; it’s a stain on us that they are prepared to die because of the way they have been treated by a Labour government. Scotland must look on this with sympathy. I remember when David Blunkett was a liberal campaigner. Why does this brutal policy exist?”

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Updated, Friday, 06 May 2005 15:00 GMT+1
Political News - Domestic Policy
Glasgow asylum seekers' hunger strike ends
Friday, 19 Mar 2004 08:25
Three asylum seekers, who stitched up their mouths to protest against their planned deportation from the UK, have ended their hunger strike.


The three Iranian Kurdish men - Fariborz Gravindi, 30, Mokhtar Haydary, 31, and Faroq Haidari, 32 - have refused food for four weeks.

They are living in Glasgow, having arrived in the UK three years ago, claiming to have been assaulted in prison in their native country. All were associated with the opposition Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) in Iran.

The hunger strike was ended following an appeal by Scotland's First Minister, Jack McConnell.

Speaking in the Scottish Parliament, after concurrent demonstrations in Edinburgh and London, Mr McConnell declared, “This hunger strike should end. The most damaging thing that could happen here is that it continues.”

It is believed that the three men have begun to take fluids in response to the positive support they are receiving.

Mark Brown, secretary of the Glasgow Campaign to Welcome Refugees, told the BBC, “Three men from Iran do not sew up their lips and go without food for four weeks unless they are in serious fear of their lives.

"They have changed their attitude to the campaign.

"It started as one of desperation and despair, in which they expected to die quite quickly.

"Now they can see the support they have received and believe quite rightly they can win.”

[I have followed up on what happened to those three men. The latest reference I have, from April 23, 2004, was that they had been evicted from their government housing, but not deported. If anyone knows anything more than this, please chime in.]




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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:33 am    Post subject: Ban all British Products and Services Reply with quote


The key is to add pressure to British Government to Stop Supporting Mullahs by adding pressure to British Businesses to push Blair's Government to stop supporting the Terror Masters.
This is the long term battle for Iranian people freedom from Mullahs. We will win because we are right we should push for the following agenda no matter how long it takes and how hard we should fight. The keyword is PUSH PUSH PUSH .... IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT THE BRITISH ARE CONDUCTING THEMSELVES IN WAYS THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE TO THE MULLAHS!.

Ban all British Products and Services

Do not buy anything made in the U.K.
(UNTIL THEY ARE ALLIED WITH THE IRANIAN PEOPLE, NOT w/ THE MULLAHS!)


Use every chance you have to educate the world about the filthy Neo Colonialist practices of the British government under leadership of Tony Blair and Jack Straw in Iran.


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I have stopped buying anything that is made in France & Canada and I will add Brittish to it. Although there are not many things in here that is made in UK.
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Boycott the BP Gas Stations, British Airlines, Banks...... Reply with quote

blank wrote:
I have stopped buying anything that is made in France & Canada and I will add Brittish to it. Although there are not many things in here that is made in UK.



I am sorry to inform you that by Electing Blair the British people has given Freedom loving Iranian people no other choice except Boycotting anything British .

In US and Europe Boycott the BP Gas Stations, British Airlines, Banks, Insurance companies, British Stock Market and stop traveling to UK as a tourist is a good beginning .
In Iran the Iranian people should not buy and use any Products made in UK (Cars components ….) . We should stop buying British Pound currency….
Iranian car dealers in US if they love freedom they should not buy and sell British cars in US.
In Iran the people can stop their contacts with British citizens, avoid them and don’t provide Taxi services for them. This is peaceful means to add pressure to the British elected government. We should remember the British people elected their government by their choice but we have not elected the Mullahs. 90% of Iranian people consider the Mullahs regime as illegitimate and Iranian people are not responsible for Mullahs Terrorist actions anywhere but the British people have elected Tony Blair and they are responsible for Blair’s support for Mullahs. Blair government does not care about Human Rights and did not do anything regarding Kazemi case…..
If you love freedom NOW is time for action by everyone no matter how small it is. Continuous rain can create flood, and when the flood start the damage is big and difficult to stop.
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 2:09 am    Post subject: Historical Facts Regarding UK Strategy In Iran Reply with quote

Historical Facts Regarding UK Strategy In Iran

انگلستــــان دشمــــن قســـم خورده ملــّــت ايــــران چه ميگويد:
عقيــده صـريح و صادقانه من اين است که چون هدف اساســی ما حفظ هنـدوستـان است
ايران را کماکان در ضعــف و بربريت نگاه داريم و هيچ سيــاستــی را در خارج از ايـــن در مــورد اين مملکـــت د نبـــال نکنيـــم .
Sir Gore Ouseley رئيـــس امور هند در وزارت خارجه انگلستـان 15 اکتبر 1844

بعـــد از ايــن انقـــلاب ، ايران تنهــــا مقـامـی هم پـايه ی افغـــانســتان خواهـد يافـت و بـرای هميشـــه رويـــای تمــدن بزرگ و پنجمــــين قــدرت جهـــان شــدن را از يـــاد خـــواهد بــــرد.
راديـــو بی بی سی ، 17 آذر1357

ولي موقعي كه صحبت از خود ديّوسشان است و ميخواهند دموكراسي را ترجمه كنند ، ميگويند :


If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject: Why Should We Boycott British Products & Services? Reply with quote

Why Should The Freedom Loving People Of The World Boycott British Products & Services?

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone lets boycutt France, Canada, and England.......Canada is not much different from England...In fact I find Canadian mentality very similar to that of Britts......
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than the US, are there *any* countries with sanctions against trading with Iran under the IRI? Offhand I can't think of one. Iraq might still have some left over from the Saddam era. So perhaps the correct strategy is to buy 100% American (and perhaps Iraq and Afghanistan as democratic neighbors of Iran).

Or perhaps focus on firms who buy or sell directly from/to the IRI government, some of the oil drilling companies for instance, if any have consumer lines that can be boycotted.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:01 am    Post subject: Blair backs referring Iran to U.N. Reply with quote

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Blair backs referring Iran to U.N.
Thursday, May 12, 2005 Posted: 1221 GMT (2021 HKT)

Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/05/12/blair/index.html

LONDON, England -- British Prime Minister Tony Blair has said he would support Iran being referred to the U.N. Security Council if Tehran breached its nuclear obligations.

"We certainly will support referral to the U.N. Security Council if Iran breaches its undertaking and obligations," Blair said Thursday at his first news conference since his Labour Party won a historic third term in last week's elections.

Blair has faced calls from within his own party to step down sooner rather than later.
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This is too little too late Mr. Blair what we expect from UK are as follows:
1) Fire Jack Straw NOW
2) Make a formal apology from freedom loving Iranian people regarding past 26 years Neo Colonialist policy towards Iran by supporting Mullahs.
3) Make a formal apology from freedom loving Iranian people for acting as lobbyist for Mullahs regime in Washington.
4) Make a formal apology from freedom loving Iranian people regarding past 200 years British Colonialist and Terrorist policy towards Iran (for conspiracy to murder reformist prime ministers ….).
5) Freeze all Mullahs asset in UK and return it to future truly elected Iranian government and put an end to all illegal contracts that are signed by bribing corrupt Mullahs.
6) Support regime change policy by Iranian people and replacing the Mullahs regime with secular democracy.
7) Iranian people must be treated as equal partner and stop British conspiracy policy for stealing Iranian resources.


Mr. Blair You Can Not Hide Your Head in The Sand For Very Long,
You Must Face The Reality NOW
Mr. Blair The Freedom Loving People of the World are Far Smarter Than You Think


Or when you are looking at the mirror to see your face with shame for the past and present evil acts, at least be honest to yourself for once and say that you serve a Neo Colonialist government and by supporting the Mullah's regime in past 26 years , in a way you and your government supported the following Crimes against humanity and partially responsible for Islamist Terrorist activity through out the world:
Over the past 26 years UK directly and indirectly supported the Islamic regime's agents, courts, judges and vigilantes who have all committed acts of: murder, stoning, torture, assault, theft, destruction of property, arson, perjury, falsification of testimonials and material evidence, illegal surveillance, kidnapping, all kind of terrorist activity, rape, blackmail, fraud, obstruction of justice, conspiracy to commit all of the above crimes, cover-ups and every other form of butchery and depredation.

Mr. Blair's Government Supported an Islamist Regime With Long List of Rape, Torture, Mass Killing and Lies This is Recorded in The History
What is your answer to history and your people when they find out about the details of your government relation with Terror Masters?




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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasker wrote:
Other than the US, are there *any* countries with sanctions against trading with Iran under the IRI? Offhand I can't think of one. Iraq might still have some left over from the Saddam era. So perhaps the correct strategy is to buy 100% American (and perhaps Iraq and Afghanistan as democratic neighbors of Iran).

Or perhaps focus on firms who buy or sell directly from/to the IRI government, some of the oil drilling companies for instance, if any have consumer lines that can be boycotted.


Unfortunately, due to NAFTA and other trade agreements you can hardly buy anything that is made in the US, except for cars. Just about everything that I buy I look to see where it is made at, even the products that few years ago were made here, is now made in China with much inferior quality. I have started writing to some of these companies, complaining about the inferior quality of their merchandise, since they have taken their business to China. If more people do that maybe so many josbs would not be eliminated in this country.
The same goes with food products, every shrimp or prawn you eat comes from Thailand or near by country, a lot of fish comes from S. America or Canada. I guess I am getting off the topic...sorry......
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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am sorry to inform you that by Electing Blair the British people has given Freedom loving Iranian people no other choice except Boycotting anything British .


Good luck! the british dont make anything anymore! except for a few cynical jokes here and there...

By isolating yourselves and setting ameriica higher than every othe country you estroy the cohesion of a democratic front and cause dissension amongst your potential supporters. you wonder why everyone hates america? just re read this thread and other comments on this site and imagine you are european/ canadian or just pretty much anyone outside the U.S

And i know all im going to hear is "i cant imagine being european its sickening!" and all that other bull rhetoric. But i am just pointing out that unity and co - operation of the west will bring down the mullahs far far quicker than squabbling like this untill the mullahs finish their nuke.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<< unity and co - operation of the west will bring down the mullahs far far quicker than squabbling like this untill the mullahs finish their nuke.>>

Reza, I agree with you on that and I think that Bush does as well. The reason he's letting the Euro 3 take the lead in the nuke talks with the mullahs, is so he will get their cooperation in imposing multilateral sanctions on the IRI. If they, Canada, Japan and other major western economic powers join in, China's veto of UN sanctions probably will not make a difference.

I disagree with all the bashing of Blair that goes on in here. His support was crucial on Iraq, and it will be on Iran as well. God help the people of Iran if Blair leaves and regime change is dependent on Blair's successor Brown, or someone else more like the typical Laborite.
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