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Conversions to Zoroastrianism
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sudi



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know up until now, I was under the impression that one could not convert to Zoroastrianism (Zartoshti). How does one go about initiating such a process?

Thanks in advance for any info.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sudi wrote:
You know up until now, I was under the impression that one could not convert to Zoroastrianism (Zartoshti). How does one go about initiating such a process?

Thanks in advance for any info.



Sudi-jaan,

I'm short on time but here's a link that will interest you:

http://www.bozorgbazgasht.com/


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also in the US, Ali Jafary in California performs conversion ceremonies, he himself converted
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a religion is defined as dominant by the amount of people that follow it. Names of the week are irrelevant in the face of historical fact. Europe has been dominanted by paganism and christianity no more no less. UI have never even heard of a zoarastrian communiy in europe and do not mentionmithraism as it was a cult taken on by the romans in the same fashion as the dionysians. they just used it as an excuse to have drunken orgies.

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the first charter of Human Rights - that of Cyrus - comes from this worldview


there is absolutely no proof cyrus was a a zoarastrian, Xenophon has him worship zeus. herodotus has him attempt to burn croseus alivve not a zoarastrian custom i believe.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kurdish religious practices bear close resemblance in ritual style to the Zarathusti faith. The original religion of the Kurds was Yezidism, a religion greatly influenced by Zoroastrianism, and many Kurds were also Zoroastrian until the Islamic conversions that began in the seventh century. Today, about 25 percent of Kurds still practice Yezidism, which is centered around the town of Lalish in northern Iraq.

According to Dr. Pir Mamou Othman, an expert on Kurdish religious practices, ďthe Yezidis pray in a way which resembles the prayer-rituals of the Zoroastrians, something especially noticeable in the morning-prayer where the face is turned towards the sun. Their cycle of five prayers also stems from Zoroastrianism, and not from Islam, as is often stated.Ē Though 70 percent of Kurds are nominally Islamic (the remaining 5 percent are Jewish and Christian), they hold their Islam lightly, practicing a syncretic articulation of the faith that reflects their pre-Islamic past.

There are reports, mostly unconfirmed, that in the face of persecution from both Shias and Sunnis and their growing political independence, some Kurdish tribes have begun to embrace Zoroastrianism. In a rare interview on the subject, Mahir Welatórepresentative of the National Liberation Front of Kurdistan (ERNK) and the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) to the Russian Federationósaid that ďFor a time the Kurds forgot about their Zoroastrianism roots but now it is our intention to return and to educate ourselves.Ē


Hey people - I just wanna correct some thing said about the Kurds...

The Yezidi Kurds - who are the parallel to Persian Zoroastrianism does not make up 25 % of Kurds today. Of the 40 million Kurds only between 3-4 percent are Yezidi (about 2-3 million). These manly live in and around Lalesh, in South Kurdistan and around Ararat and AgrÓ in North Kurdistan - but generally they reside in the Kurdish heartland - between Amed (Diyarbakir) and Ormiye lake and southwards to QesrÍ ShÓrÓn...

It is however right about that many places in Kurdistan people want to recover their ancient religion - but that is Yezidi faith - not ZerdushtÓ... ZerdushtÓ is profound Persian faith... And the Yezidi themselves do not see themselves as ascendants of ZerdeshtÓ - as their faith in most cases collides with the Monolithic thinking in ZerdeshtÓ... ®

Kurds are 70 % Sunni Muslim, 7 % Christian and Jews and the remaining (23 %) are keepers of YARSANISM ("CULT OF ANGELS") - Yarsanism has three branches: Alevism, EhlÍ Heq and Yezidi... Most of the 23 % belong to the Alevi branch and secondly to the Yezidi branch... The EhlÍ Heq branch has most of it's believers in East Kurdistan (Iranian Kurdistan) in the town of Hewreman, Ilam and Kermanshah...

Yezidi religious gathering - honouring Tawus Melek with divine music:




The Yarsan believe in re-incarnation. Today Alevis often see themselves as Muslim - but this is mostly because of the prosecution they have suffered. Because their faith colides in many ways with Islam - for exampel they have saints which is forbidden in Islam, etc.

The YÍzÓdÓ believe in Tawus Melek (Peackock Angel) which has been "given" ALL power by God... They also believe in the Seven Arch Angels. One for each side of life...

The EhlÍ Heq is like the "sufi" version of yarsanism... They have a special tradition for prayer and for reaching exodus and oneness with the Great Spirit.


Another correction to the article - The Yezidi turn to the sun THREE times a day to pray... The sun and fire are like in ZerdeshtÓ, holy...







The word "Kheda" "Xuda" is a Kurdish Yezidi word for God and means "self given" - meaning God was created by God self...

Their book is:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
Forget religions!

They are all sick! or they sicken people!

I second that

Bad thoughts, bad words, bad deeds

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Among the different factions in Iran fighting for liberty are the groups advocating a return to our pre-Islamic past and the "glory" of our Persian empire. These people believe that Iranians have lost their "culture consciousness", some looking to the West and some to the Arabs for answers to their problems. They believe that only by reviving our ancient customs and religion can we retain our pride and glory as a nation. What annoys me most about this group is the myth they have created, concerning Zoroastrianism.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In pictures: Zoroastrians in Iran

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/05/middle_east_zoroastrians_in_iran/html/1.stm

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most popular religion in the Roman Empire untill the christians made it illegal was Mithraism.
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