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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Contradictions In Bush Admin Iran Policy /Words and Their Ac Reply with quote

New Contradictions In Bush Admin Iran Policy/Words Verses Actions

If Bush Admin is planning to release 9 Taazi Thugs Revolutionary Guards from Iraq in next few days then they are contradicting their own words and policy. If Bush Admin does not follow their own policy then how do they expect other G8 members will follow them?
Do they know what they are doing ?
Is this called flip flop policy?
If Bush Admin wish to be truthful to their own words in past 7 years that they are supporting Iranian people .... then as long as all freedom-loving Iranian Political Prisoners are not released from prison , the Bush Admin should not even consider to release any Taazi Thugs from U.S. Iraqi prison ...

Out of ignorance or "maybe super secretive plans???" President Bush administration sends conflicting signals. These steps are against freedom-loving Iranian people not Taazi Thug Mafia Mullahs. They keep giving excuses to this brutal regime to silent any opposition voices inside Iran, and yet they claim publicly to be against the Taazi Thug Mafia Mullahs in Iran..
President Bush administration is relatively silent regarding Human Rights violations in Iran ... WHY?


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U.S.: Releasing Revolutionary Guard Taazi Thugs (Iranian???) Detainees to Clear the Way for Talks?
November 06, 2007 14 28 GMT
http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=297846
Summary

The U.S. military said Nov. 6 that it will release nine Iranians being held in Iraq, including two of the five Iranians detained in Arbil in January. The move could be a sign that talks between the United States and Iran over Iraq are coming soon.

Analysis

The U.S. military announced Nov. 6 that it will release nine Iranians being held in Iraq, two of whom were among the five detained in the northern Iraqi city of Arbil in January. U.S. military spokesman Rear Adm. Greg Smith said at a news conference that it is the U.S. military's intent to release the Iranians in the coming days, and that the individuals are no longer a threat to Iraqi security nor of value to the United States.

The January detention of five Iranian officials -- including Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and Quds Force members accused of providing direct support to Shiite militias -- fit into a spate of tit-for-tat abductions waged by the United States and Iran in a heated covert intelligence war. The detention also has been a sticking point in Iran's tumultuous negotiations with the United States over Iraq. That the United States is now easing up and releasing at least two of the five detainees carries promise for a new round of talks between Washington and Tehran in the near future. It also comes as no coincidence that Iran's consulates in Arbil and Sulaymaniyah reopened the same day of the U.S. military announcement.

Iran already has been preparing for another bout of negotiations by aligning itself with Moscow for some added leverage against the United States. The Iranians also have been hinting, with persistent nudging from Russia, that their nuclear program could be negotiated as part of a deal with Washington that would provide Tehran with substantial political concessions in Iraq.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini reiterated Nov. 5 that Iran will continue cooperating with the International Atomic Energy Agency, and said that Iran is waiting for an official invitation to come through from U.S. diplomatic channels for another round of direct talks. Washington has responded positively with the release of these Iranian detainees. In the coming days or weeks, a new date could be set for another round of negotiations, though both sides will continue their bellicose rhetoric.


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U.S. slaps new sanctions on Revolutionary Guard Corps, or the IRGC, and the Quds force

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/25/iran.sanctions/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States imposed stiff sanctions against Iran on Thursday, targeting two Iranian military groups and a number of Iranian banks and people it accuses of backing nuclear proliferation and terror-related activities.

"Many of the Iranian regime's most destabilizing policies are carried out by two of its agencies: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or the IRGC, and the Quds force, an arm of the IRGC," she said.

She said the sanctions were being imposed "because of the Revolutionary Guard's support for proliferation and the Quds force support for terrorism."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/25/iran.sanctions/#cnnSTCVideo

Watch Rice tell why sanctions are being imposed


Welcomed the new sanctions on Revolutionary Guard Corps, or the IRGC, and the Quds force . Please Watch Rice tell why sanctions are being imposed
Disagree with Dr. Rice last part of her statement in the above CNN video that she does not mind to meet with the illegitimate regime officials in Iran. We reject any kind of meeting with the regime officials based on the following petition by freedom-loving Iranian people:


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Not Delivered Words and Promise By President Bush wrote:

- “The Iranian regime arms, funds, and advises Hezbollah, which has killed more Americans than any terrorist network except al Qaeda. The Iranian regime interferes in Iraq by sponsoring terrorists and insurgents, empowering unlawful militias, and supplying components for improvised explosive devices. The Iranian regime denies basic human rights to millions of its people. And the Iranian regime is pursuing nuclear weapons in open defiance of its international obligations.” http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=29571#29571

- “Iran is a nation held hostage by a small clerical elite that is isolating and repressing its people, and denying them basic liberties and human rights. The Iranian regime sponsors terrorists and is actively working to expand its influence in the region.” http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7800

- “The same is true of Iran, a nation now held hostage by a small clerical elite that is isolating and repressing its people. The regime in that country sponsors terrorists in the Palestinian territories and in Lebanon -- and that must come to an end. The Iranian government is defying the world with its nuclear ambitions -- and the nations of the world must not permit the Iranian regime to gain nuclear weapons. America will continue to rally the world to confront these threats. And tonight, let me speak directly to the citizens of Iran: America respects you, and we respect your country. We respect your right to choose your own future and win your own freedom. And our nation hopes one day to be the closest of friends with a free and democratic Iran.” http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7639

- “I've a message for the Iranian people: The United States respects you and your country. We admire your rich history, your vibrant culture, and your many contributions to civilization. When Cyrus the Great led the Iranian people more than 2,500 years ago, he delivered one of the world's first declarations of individual rights, including the right to worship God in freedom. Through the centuries, Iranians have achieved distinction in medicine and science and poetry and philosophy, and countless other fields.”
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: U.S. And Iran: A History Of Dupe-lomacy Reply with quote

U.S. And Iran: A History Of Dupe-lomacy
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Tue Nov 6, 6:39 PM ET

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20071106/bs_ibd_ibd/20071106issues01

Iran: For nearly three decades, under presidents of both parties, the U.S. has hoped in vain for a diplomatic breakthrough with Tehran's Islamofascist mullahs. It's time to stop pretending.


"Surrender Is Not an Option," a new book by former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton, was released only this week, but a story within its pages is already getting around.

After hearing of the decision to have direct talks with Iran if the regime promises to end its uranium-enrichment activities, Bolton, dining with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at a fancy French restaurant, made a point 15f ordering as his appetizer ... carrot soup.

Bolton complains that we are deferring to Europe's dovish diplomats and offering Iran "several boatloads of carrots." Bolton called this a "disjunction between the goals the president has and the policies he's pursuing."

As he points out, "after going on five years of negotiation by the Europeans," there's no evidence of "any sign of change in the Iranians' strategic policy that they've been following for close to 20 years, which is to get nuclear weapons."

A similar "disjunction" happened during Ronald Reagan's presidency. "It's time to serve notice we won't hold still for their barbarism," Douglas Brinkley's "Reagan Diaries" finds the president writing in January 1985, on the subject of striking back at Iran for Hezbollah's holding of U.S. hostages in Lebanon.

That September, Reagan recorded, "It seems a man high up in the Iranian govt. believes he can deliver all or part of (seven U.S.) kidnap victims in Lebanon sometime in early Sept." on a beach in Tripoli. By December, the president had discovered that "the Iranian 'go between' ... turns out to be a devious character. Our plan regarding the hostages is a 'no go.'"

Reagan described it all as a "complex plan which could return our ... hostages and help some officials in Iran who want to turn that country from its present course." Instead, it led to the Iran-Contra affair, which brought plenty of embarrassment to the White House but zero moderation within Tehran.

During the Carter administration, only weeks before 53 American hostages were taken at our embassy in Tehran in 1979, Pentagon officials were negotiating the U.S. sale of weapons parts to be used to attack the Kurds in the hope that the Ayatollah Khomeini would normalize relations with us.

In 1994, President Bill Clinton surreptitiously used Croatia to sell Iranian arms to Bosnia. A congressional investigation found that Clinton's scheme inadvertently let the Iranians annex "large portions of the Bosnian security apparatus to act as their intelligence and terrorist surrogates. This extended to the point 15f jointly planning terrorist activities."

Later, lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta reportedly trained in Bosnia, and two other 9/11 terrorists were recruited by the German al-Qaida operative Mohammed Hadar Zimmer, who went to Bosnia in 1995 and ran a terrorist base there.

Clinton also shelved the option of retaliating against Tehran for its role in Hezbollah's 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 U.S. service personnel. He was hoping that Mohammad Khatami, elected Iran's president in 1997, would be a true reformer. In the same vein, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright actually issued a formal mea culpa in 2000 for America's long history of supposed offenses against Iran.

But Khatami turned out to be powerless, and our concessions pointless.

Iran provides sophisticated bombs that kill our troops in Iraq, and has been in a state of war with us for nearly 30 years. But U.S. policy under Republicans and Democrats alike has remained constant -- "an insistence," as Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute puts it, "that, no matter how bad things look, patient diplomacy will eventually yield a 'solution.'"

We do have choices on Iran, none easy or pleasant: We can try to marshal a truly tough global embargo (though it may be too late); we can go all out in supporting a popular revolution to bring down the mullahs; we can attack.

But history shows that one thing cannot save the world from a nuclear-armed Iran: deluding ourselves that the mullahs can be talked into changing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: WHAT IF THE WORLD REFUSE TO BUY MULLAH'S OIL FOR 3 MONTHS?In Reply with quote

YARI NATIONAL GROUP wrote:
WHAT IF THE WORLD REFUSE TO BUY MULLAH'S OIL FOR 3 MONTHS?

Please pass on far & wide to everyone you know. We need to push this issue in order to avert war.


WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE CIVILIZED WORLD REFUSE TO BUY THE MULLAH'S OIL AND NATURAL GAS FOR THREE (3) MONTHS?

What would the Mullah's do if the civilized world refuse to buy their oil & natural gas for only 3 months?

1. Mullah's will attack Israel with their super, duper state of the art Shahab Missiles? Hit every city?

2. Declare war on the entire world?

3. Hit every American installations within the range of their putt-putt missiles?

4. Get their paid supporters in Iran and other parts of the world to demonstrate?

What will the Mullah's do?

ANSWER. Nothing!

They will just fold and die!

When the answer is so easy, why the world is making such a big game out of bunch of nobodies?


Unless, the world powers are using these Mullah's for other reasons?

There is no need to Bomb innocent Iranians, kill thousands. Just refuse to buy the Mullah's commodities for sale for a short period of time.

How hard is this?

STILL WONDERING TO DO?

چه خواهد شد اگر دول دنيا تصميم بگيرند براي مدت 3 ماه محصولات نفتي وگازي ملايان را نخرند؟

آيا ملايان به شهر هاي اسرائيل حمله خواهند برد

اهداف آمريكائي ها را در دنيا خواهند زد

اعلان جنگ جهاني سوم را خواهند كرد

واقعا چكار خواهند كرد مگر اينكه دكان آشغالشان رابسنه و دنبال اجاره سوراخ موش باشند

آيا وقتيكه به اين سادگي ميشود از شر ملا ها خلاصشد باز هم بايد دنبال حمله به مردم بخت برگشته ايران بود كه از هر طرف چوب ميخورند

خواهش ميكنيم كه كمي درك كنيد اوضاع را و براي مملكتتان وملتان كاركنيد

با عرض ادب

گروه ملي ياري

STRENGHT THROUGH UNITY

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: 9 Islamist Terrorists From Iran Released in Iraq Reply with quote

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9 Islamist Terrorists From Mafia Regime In Iran Released in Iraq

By LAUREN FRAYER
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gkx-3oYeFwuWKCusr2jrojs98w8wD8SQ465O2

BAGHDAD (AP) — Nine Iranians were released Friday from U.S. custody in Iraq, including two the military had accused of being members of an elite Iranian force suspected of arming Shiite extremists in Iraq.

The nine were released to Iraqi officials, and were being transferred to the Iranian Embassy in Baghdad, the U.S. military said in a statement. They were expected to return to Iran later Friday, it said.

Meanwhile, the U.S. military said it was investigating a "hard landing" by one of its helicopters during a operation a day earlier near Samarra, and whether the incident could have been due to hostile fire or other insurgent activity. Some 16 suspects were killed and 44 captured in raids over the past 48 hours in northern Iraq, the military said.

The nine Iranians released Friday included two men — identified by the military for the first time as Brujerd Chegini and Hamid Reza Asgari Shukuh — who were among five people captured when U.S. forces stormed an Iranian government office in the northern city of Irbil in January.

At the time, U.S. officials accused them of being members of Iran's elite Quds Force, an arm of the Revolutionary Guards that Washington has accused of funding and arming Shiite extremists fighting American forces in Iraq. Iran said the five were diplomats working in a facility that was undergoing preparations to be a consular office.

The building, along with another Iranian office in Sulaimaniyah, was shut after the Jan. 11 raid. Both offices — located in the two largest cities of Iraq's semi-autonomous Kurdish zone — reopened Tuesday as Iranian consulates.

Iraqi Kurds, like the country's Shiite Arabs, maintain close ties with Shiite-dominated Iran, despite their warm relationship with America.

The U.S. statement said the Iranians were released after a "careful review of individual records to determine if they posed a security threat to Iraq, and if their detention was of continued intelligence value."

"All nine individuals were determined to no longer pose a security risk," it said.

Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, director of the Multi-National Force-Iraq's communications division, had announced earlier this week that the men would be freed "in the coming days."

Friday's release came a day after U.S. authorities freed about 500 Iraqi prisoners in an ongoing push to empty American jails of detainees no longer deemed a threat.

But the military says it's still holding 25,800 Iraqis waiting to face charges or be given freedom. About 17,000 of those were captured this year, in largely successful campaigns to secure Baghdad and its surrounding belts, the military said.

The U.S.-backed Iraqi government has close ties to neighboring Iran, and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has sought to bring the antagonists — Washington and Tehran — together in hopes that would reduce violence.

Last week, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Iran had made assurances to the Iraqi government that it would stop the flow into Iraq of bomb-making materials and other weaponry that Washington says has inflamed insurgent and militia violence and killed hundreds of U.S. forces.

And on Tuesday, Smith told reporters in Baghdad that Iran appeared to have kept its promise.

"It's our best judgment that these particular EFPs ... in recent large cache finds do not appear to have arrived here in Iraq after those pledges were made," Smith said, displaying an array of bombs and rockets that he said were recently found. The military claimed most of the weapons were Iranian-made.

Among the weapons Washington has accused Iran of supplying to Iraqi insurgents are EFPs, or explosively formed projectiles. They fire a slug of molten metal capable of penetrating even the most heavily armored military vehicles, and thus are more deadly than other roadside bombs.

The No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno, said last week that there had been a sharp decline in the number of EFPs found in Iraq in the last three months. At the time, he and Gates both said it was too early to tell whether the trend would hold, and whether it could be attributed to action by Iranian authorities.

The U.S. military statement issued Friday identified the other seven Iranians as follows:

_ Hussain al-Kobadi, captured Nov. 20, 2004 in Fallujah, where he had been allegedly attempting to flee the scene of a mortar attack.

_ Ibrahim Mahmud Ahmed, captured April 8, 2005 during a raid in Ramadi.

_ Adil Wusayn Shamarad Muhammad and Azzam Hasan Karam Abd, both captured Feb. 20, 2006 "during a raid to disrupt al-Qaida operations in Iraq," the military said. The statement did not specify where Muhammad and Abd were captured.

_ Mohammad Ali Abbas al-Buzuda, detained May 6, 2007 by Iraqi police in al-Qadisiyah, for illegal entry into Iraq from Iran.

_ Jafan Allah, taken into custody on July 26, 2007 after he turned himself in to authorities at a border checkpoint.

_ Habib Muhammad Ghuribani Kurdi, captured Aug. 1, 2007 "during an intelligence-driven raid aimed at capturing a senior insurgent," the military said.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Disagree with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice statement Reply with quote

Free Iran Activists Are Rejecting Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice Public Shameful Statement From 1 Hour Ago

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice wrote:


1 hour, 23 minutes ago

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071112/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iran_4

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice "And if the Iranians suspend their enrichment and reprocessing, I'm prepared to meet my counterpart anyplace, anytime, anywhere," she added. "So the question isn't why will we not talk to Tehran. The question is, why will Tehran not talk to us?"


Disagree with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice statement that she is prepared to meet with her counterpart anyplace, anytime, anywhere ..... We reject any kind of meeting with the illegitimate regime officials in Iran (terror and torture masters) based on the following petition by freedom-loving Iranian people:

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Petition 52: The people of Iran DO NOT recognise the Islamic Republic as their legitimate or rightful government or representative

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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is ignoring Interpol terrorist wanted list, Human Rights Violations, Free Society Rules Violations, and Women Rights Violations that is reported by Amnesty International, Women Rights organizations and State Dept.

Associated Press Writer wrote:

Interpol puts Taazi Thugs In Iran on wanted list

By JAMEY KEATEN, Associated Press Writer

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071107/ap_on_re_mi_ea/interpol_iran


AFP wrote:
Scores hurt as Taazi Islamist Thugs In Iran militia clashes with Sufis: report
Mon Nov 12, 5:12 AM ET

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071112/wl_mideast_afp/iranreligionislamsufiunrest_071112101232


Over the past 28 years the Islamist Mafia Invaders and Occupiers of regime's agents, courts, judges and vigilantes have all committed acts of: murder, stoning, torture, assault, theft, destruction of property, arson, perjury, falsification of testimonials and material evidence, illegal surveillance, kidnapping, rape, blackmail, fraud, obstruction of justice, conspiracy to commit all of the above crimes, cover-ups and every other form of butchery and depredation.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:57 am    Post subject: Bhutto victim of Rice policy? Reply with quote

FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN
Bhutto victim of Rice policy?
Failed democracy experiment brings terrorists closer to nukes



http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59544
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The following report is excerpted from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium online newsletter published by the founder of WND. Subscriptions are $99 a year or, for monthly trials, just $9.95 per month for credit card users, and provide instant access for the complete reports.


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A TV camera captures Benazir Bhutto entering a vehicle moments before the attack that took her life (ARY Television, Pakistan)
The assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto is a major policy failure for Condoleezza Rice and the U.S. Department of State, signaling that democracy cannot be easily engineered in a region where radical Islamic terrorists still have free reign, according to an analysis in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

Bhutto returned to Pakistan to run for president because Rice had encouraged her to do so, the premium intelligence service reports.

Now the world is in the first stages of considering the possibility the attack on Bhutto could have been covertly authorized by Pakistan's President Pervez Mustarraf as part of a plan to engineer a crisis in which he could retain power.

(Story continues below)

The current risk is that Pakistan, the only Islamic nation with a nuclear arsenal, is on the brink of political chaos in which radical Islamic factions could emerge to control the country' nuclear weapons.

Rice acted under the presumption Musharraf would willingly take off his military uniform and become a co-political leader, sharing his presidency with Bhutto – all in the name of advancing democracy, an ideal to which Pakistan has never openly aspired.

Within hours of Bhutto setting foot back in Pakistan Oct. 18, Rice should have realized her dream of a secular woman returning to power in this Islamic nation was not founded in political reality.

Then Bhutto narrowly escaped injury as suicide bomb blasts killed 128 people in her celebratory procession through Karachi.

Ironically, Rice's failure in Pakistan has pushed the world closer to its ultimate fear in the region – that a radical Islamic faction could seize control of the country and its nuclear arsenal, with the Taliban, al-Qaida and Iran ready and willing to add fuel to the fire.

Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin is the premium, online intelligence news source edited and published by the founder of WND.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: It's called Real Politics ! Reply with quote

It's called REAL POLITICS!


The viscious power struggle in global politics

which doesn't make any sence

and it's not suppose to, either!

No SET RULES

No Codes of Conduct

& definitely, No Ethics !

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Welcome to REAL POLITICS:

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It's like the world population is on a plane

hijacked by bunch of crazy, greedy, power thirsty, maniacs,
ready to slit each others and anybody's throut
just to get what they want!


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Best the hostages can do, is what they've "supposedly" done
in the hijacked plane on 9-11.

don't know, wasn't there, but seems like humanity's left with no other option, but that !

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: the ulternative ! Reply with quote

there is one more option, before the final mass suiside!

fasten your seatbelt while still on this hijacked Globe

and


IMAGINE!!!!


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Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

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