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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: What Iranians Really Think Reply with quote

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What Iranians Really Think

July 11, 2007
The Wall Street Journal
Ken Ballen
http://www.terrorfreetomorrow.org/article.php?id=101


Keen observers of Iran have insisted for years that the Iranian people are pro-Western, indeed pro-American, while opposed to the largely unelected clerical regime that rules them. For the first time, Terror Free Tomorrow's unprecedented nationwide poll of Iran offers indisputable empirical proof that these commentators are dead-on in their assessment of the "Iranian street."

Discontent with the current system of government, the economy and isolation from the West is widespread throughout Iran. In this context, nuclear weapons are the lowest priority for the Iranian people. The overwhelming popular will to live in a country open to the West and the U.S., with greater economic opportunity, is a powerful plea from every region and segment of society. Iranians also speak with one voice in rejecting the current autocratic rule of their supreme leader and in courageously asking for democracy instead.

Iranian students: A new survey shows their fellow citizens want democracy too.

These are among the significant findings of the first uncensored public opinion survey of Iran since President Ahmadinejad took office. The survey was conducted in Farsi by telephone from June 5 to June 18, 2007, with 1,000 interviews covering all 30 provinces of Iran (and a margin of error of 3.1%). The last poll to ask similar controversial questions was conducted in September 2003 by Abbas Abdi inside Iran. He was imprisoned as a result.

Developing nuclear weapons was seen as a very important priority by only 29% of Iranians. By contrast, 88% of Iranians considered improving the Iranian economy a very important priority. 80% of Iranians favor Iran offering full international nuclear inspections and a guarantee not to develop or possess nuclear weapons in return for outside aid.

Moreover, close to 70% of Iranians also favor normal relations and trade with the U.S. Indeed, in exchange for normal relations, a majority of Iranians even favor recognizing Israel and Palestine as independent states, ending Iranian support for any armed groups inside Iraq, and giving full transparency by Iran to the U.S. to ensure there are no Iranian endeavors to develop nuclear weapons.

Yet the most significant finding of our survey for the future of Iran's present rulers is the opposition to their current system of government.

Some 61% of Iranians were willing to tell our pollsters -- over the phone no less -- that they oppose the current Iranian system of government, in which the supreme leader rules according to religious principles and cannot be chosen or replaced by direct vote of the people.

More telling, over 79% of Iranians support a democratic system instead, in which the supreme leader, along with all leaders, can be chosen and replaced by a free and direct vote of the people. Only 11% of Iranians said they would strongly oppose having a political system in which all of their leaders, including the supreme leader, are chosen by popular election.

Iranians across all demographic groups oppose the unelected rule of the supreme leader in favor of electing all their leaders. While these views run stronger in Tehran, they are also held across all provinces of Iran, and in both urban and rural areas.

Terror Free Tomorrow's path-breaking survey of Iran demonstrates that the Iranian people are the best ally of the U.S. and the West against the government in Tehran. The considerable challenge is how to support the Iranian people while also achieving important U.S. goals, such as preventing the Iranian government from developing a nuclear arsenal.

There are no easy answers. The U.S., with France, Germany, Britain and the international community, however, should not spurn the clear will of Iranians. The implicit bet Iranians seem to want the world to make is to engage Iran now, and place the burden squarely on Iran's rulers to reject an offer that would clearly improve the life of the Iranian people themselves.

This does not mean that the U.S., Europe and the international community should abandon current sanctions or indeed fail to strengthen future sanctions against the regime. Yet since military options for responding to Iran entail even greater unknowable risks, and sanctions alone so far have proved inadequate, a strategy that also recognizes the consensus of the people of Iran themselves may realistically offer the best hope for all.

Mr. Ballen is president of Terror Free Tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Iran Opening? Poll Shows Public Rejects Regime's Agenda Reply with quote

New York Post Dick Morris & Eileen McGann wrote:
Iran Opening? Poll Shows Public Rejects Regime's Agenda

July 16, 2007
New York Post
Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07162007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/iran_opening__opedcolumnists_dick_morris__eileen_mcgann.htm?page=0

Is the extremist agenda of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - including support for terror, development of nuclear weapons and confrontation with the United States and Israel - popular among Iranians? Are they willing to make the sacrifices that would come from an increasingly tight global boycott imposed because of Iran's defiance of United Nations strictures on its nuclear development?

A rare glimpse into the minds of the Iranian people - via a telephone survey of Iranians conducted for Terror Free Tomorrow - shows that the answers to both questions is "no!"

Apparently, Ahmadinejad and the ayatollahs are in serious political trouble. Iranians do not much care about getting the bomb and very much worry about global isolation.

The survey shows:

* Iranians oppose the institution of an "unelected Supreme Leader" by 61-27 and favor democracy by 79-14. So when liberals assail neocons for having a naive faith in peoples' aspirations for freedom, they are just wrong - even in Iran.

* Iranians want nuclear power more than nuclear weapons. Suffering under gasoline rationing and falling energy exports, three-quarters said that developing nuclear power, without weapons, was "very important." By contrast, only 37 percent said developing nuclear weapons was a similar priority. Since the Iranian regime says that it wants nuclear power, not nuclear weapons, its stated position accords with its people's views. (The government, of course, is lying and wants to get a bomb.)

The survey underscores the need to separate nuclear power from weaponry in the minds of the people and make clear that Western sanctions are designed to prevent Iran from getting the bomb, not power or energy.

* Iranians would gladly agree to "full inspections and a guarantee that Iran would not develop nuclear weapons" if other nations would increase overall trade and investment (80 percent), increase investment in the energy sector (79 percent), give humanitarian assistance (80 percent) or assist in helping Iran develop peaceful nuclear energy (80 percent).

* Only 33 percent said supporting terrorist proxies Hezbollah or Hamas was a priority, and 55 percent are ready to endorse full recognition of Israel and of a Palestinian state if they could get "normal trade and full recognition" from the United States. Almost two-thirds - 64 percent - said that they are willing to end Iranian assistance to armed groups in Iraq and 51 percent would forgo nuclear weaponry and accept full international controls and inspections in return for normal relations with the United States.

These data emphasize the importance of a Western willingness to bring Iran in from the cold in return for a no-nuclear-weapons agreement. The palpable thirst of the people for an end to their isolation speaks volumes about the attractiveness of such a proposition.

* The government in Iran gets dismal ratings. By 52-33, Iranians feel Ahmadinejad has failed to cut unemployment or inflation; by 56-22, they say he has not kept his campaign promise to "put oil revenues on the tables of the average family."

But does this all matter? Do the opinions of the Iranian people count in this dictatorship? Clearly, they do. The data point to a potential for revolution should Iran's global isolation increase. People are fed up with living in a pariah state and want normal relations with the rest of the world - even if it means abandoning their leaders' extremist agenda.

Thus, the recent actions of Florida, Missouri and Louisiana in cutting off all pension-fund investments in companies that do business in Iran takes on particular importance. Their nation's global isolation clearly grates on the Iranian people and stokes their fears and disenchantment with their government. Divestment legislation is making good progress in Pennsylvania (shepherded by state Rep. Josh Shapiro, a Democrat) and in California and New Jersey. In New York, unfortunately, the Legislature adjourned without taking any action. Divestterror.org, an organization founded by Frank Gaffney of the Reagan Pentagon, is leading these battles.

The Louisiana action is particularly important. The state law - sponsored by state Rep. Pete Schneider, a Republican - authorizes the governor to contract with Wall Street firms to develop a terror-free investment index of companies and mutual funds in which the state can put its pension funds. Once such a fund is developed, the potential for it to become the gold standard for disinvestment is enormous.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Islamist Mafia Occupiers of Iran Is A Dead Regime Reply with quote

Islamist Mafia Occupiers of Iran Is A Dead Regime and Must Be Removed By Iranian People and Iranian Armed Forces

Due to the fact that all Survey data coming from Soviet Union before collapse were wrong and even the intelligence community predictions were all wrong and their data were distorted therefore we can not rely on any Survey conducted in Fear societies like Iran independent of who is conducting it. The collapse of Soviet Union by only few years difference perdicted correctly only one soviet dissent .

I am sharing with readers of ActivistChat some of the data that I have heard from different sources that you might consider it as useful to know:
1- 10% of Iranian Army is supporting Islamist Mafia Mullahs (Tazi) and 90% are against them.
2- 30% of Revolutionary Guard is supporting Tazist
3- 50% of Militia is supporting Tazist
4- Assume over 95% of Iranian people are considered as Anti Tazi and the Islamist regime. The regime has no real public support (Islamist regime must go.) . The only reason the regime survive today is their control over Oil Money and ability to pay highly to their thugs and supporters (5%).
5- The biggest unity factor between Iranians, American Elites, and Israelis is the Secularism and Regime Change by Iranian people.
6- More than 80% of Iranians are pro American and EU3, China, Russia ... are very fearful of this strong support ....

Due to the facts that we can not rely on any data coming from Fear Society like Iran, unless there is a very good test case for it therefore we should focus more on our best judgement to support Iranian people for regime change, and respect their demands for Free Society and Secular Democracy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Cyrus:
Iranian leaders like yourself should get together and start working on a BILL OF RIGHTS for Iran. Number 1 on that bill should be, the philosophy of Zardosht will replace Shia Islam- that is known to be Iran's official religion-NO ISLAMIC LAWS under any circumstances.
2- Separation of religion and state- including, no one with an outfit representing islam will be able to work in a public place- meaning no Hejab for women & rag on men's head. This is a lot better than what Ataturk, the hero of the Turkish people declared! anyone in Islamic garb preaching Islam in public, will be beheaded!! boy secularism came fast for Turky, that announcement was followed by, if women are covered in hejab they cannot work.
We need another Reza Shah Kabir to restore our freedom.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Leadership & Secularism Reply with quote

blank wrote:
Dear Cyrus:
Iranian leaders like yourself should get together and start working on a BILL OF RIGHTS for Iran. Number 1 on that bill should be, the philosophy of Zardosht will replace Shia Islam- that is known to be Iran's official religion-NO ISLAMIC LAWS under any circumstances.
2- Separation of religion and state- including, no one with an outfit representing islam will be able to work in a public place- meaning no Hejab for women & rag on men's head. This is a lot better than what Ataturk, the hero of the Turkish people declared! anyone in Islamic garb preaching Islam in public, will be beheaded!! boy secularism came fast for Turky, that announcement was followed by, if women are covered in hejab they cannot work.
We need another Reza Shah Kabir to restore our freedom.


Dear Blank,
I am a Free Iran activist for voiceless people to watch for their interest within the ActivistChat 2007 Framework and make suggestion to political leaders and not become an Iranian leader or act as a leader . Activists must be faithful to their framework and they should not compromise on critical matter and push hard on basic principles like Secular Democracy, Free Society and Human Rights. On the other hand Politic is the art of compromising and Conesus building among people and government by different elected leaders.
Thesaurus wrote:

Adj. 1. politic - marked by artful prudence, expedience, and shrewdness; "it is neither polite nor politic to get into other people's quarrels"; "a politic decision"; "a politic manager"; "a politic old scoundrel"; "a shrewd and politic reply"
diplomatical, diplomatic - skilled in dealing with sensitive matters or people
impolitic - not politic; "an impolitic approach to a sensitive issue"
2. politic - smoothly agreeable and courteous with a degree of sophistication; "he was too politic to quarrel with so important a personage"; "the hostess averted a confrontation between two guests with a diplomatic change of subject"; "the manager pacified the customer with a smooth apology for the error"; "affable, suave, moderate men...smugly convinced of their respectability" - Ezra Pound
smooth, suave
diplomatical, diplomatic - skilled in dealing with sensitive matters or people


ActivistChat 2007 Framework wrote:

13. We are Free Iran Activists and Watch Group monitoring high government officials, Journalists , writers and scholars words and their actions based on the following direction from James Madison:
"If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men! over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions. "
The Federalist No. 51 (James Madison).

14. Support and promote people, groups and leadership who are making positive contributions for Human Rights, Regime Change in Iran, Free
Iran, Free Society and Secular democracy from progressive Center, Right and Left
.


ActivistChat Definition of Secularism and Democracy is similar to the Iranian Scholar Professor Esmail Nooriala Farsi lecture. Secularism in current usage is generally complete separation of Government from Religion and any Ideology (i.e Marxism). Democracy without Secularism and Secular Parties has only one time usage as we had seen Nazi Party , Khomenist (Tazi) In Iran and very recently by Islamist Hamas Party in Palestine and repeated many times in past history in many countries

No religious Parties should be allowed in true secular system of government.


Those who have become kind of candidate for political leadership in past that they are qualified and experienced, have public support and name recognition are as follows:


Iranian Royal Family Leadership Council Suggestion As A First Step For Unity Of Iranian Oppositions For Freeing Iran Faster With Minimum Bloodshed


MEK Leadership Candidacy Rejected By Iranian People:
MEK independent of their relation with Sadam and past history can not be considered in leadership position , and they will be rejected by great majority of Iranian people because of current strong Secularism Movement in Iran that reject any Ideological organizations of any sort.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Cyrus.
It would be great if some of the trustworthy Iranian historians start looking at the U.S. Bill of Rights and make a similar draft fit for Iran, as Iranian Bill of Rights... without Bill of Rights democracy is meaningless.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blank wrote:
Thank you Cyrus.
It would be great if some of the trustworthy Iranian historians start looking at the U.S. Bill of Rights and make a similar draft fit for Iran, as Iranian Bill of Rights... without Bill of Rights democracy is meaningless.

Dear Blank,
Excellent Idea, I will pass your request to those who are in the possible political leadership position, Iranian Scholars, Writers, Poets, and fellow Activists ....
United States Bill of Rights
Any suggestion for initial draft?
Regards,
Cyrus


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyrus wrote:
blank wrote:
Thank you Cyrus.
It would be great if some of the trustworthy Iranian historians start looking at the U.S. Bill of Rights and make a similar draft fit for Iran, as Iranian Bill of Rights... without Bill of Rights democracy is meaningless.

Dear Blank,
Excellent Idea, I will pass your request to those who are in the possible political leadership position, Iranian Scholars, Writers, Poets, and fellow Activists ....
United States Bill of Rights
Any suggestion for initial draft?
Regards,
Cyrus


One of my basic suggestions is propsed in my previous e-mail:

"BILL OF RIGHTS for Iran. Number 1 on that bill should be, the philosophy of Zardosht will replace Shia Islam- that is known to be Iran's official religion-NO ISLAMIC LAWS under any circumstances.
2- Separation of religion and state- including, no one with an outfit representing islam will be able to work in a public place- meaning no Hejab for women & rag on men's head. This is a lot better than what Ataturk, the hero of the Turkish people declared! anyone in Islamic garb preaching Islam in public, will be beheaded!! boy secularism came fast for Turky, that announcement was followed by, if women are covered in hejab they cannot work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blank wrote:
cyrus wrote:
blank wrote:
Thank you Cyrus.
It would be great if some of the trustworthy Iranian historians start looking at the U.S. Bill of Rights and make a similar draft fit for Iran, as Iranian Bill of Rights... without Bill of Rights democracy is meaningless.

Dear Blank,
Excellent Idea, I will pass your request to those who are in the possible political leadership position, Iranian Scholars, Writers, Poets, and fellow Activists ....
United States Bill of Rights
Any suggestion for initial draft?
Regards,
Cyrus


One of my basic suggestions is propsed in my previous e-mail:

"BILL OF RIGHTS for Iran. Number 1 on that bill should be, the philosophy of Zardosht will replace Shia Islam- that is known to be Iran's official religion-NO ISLAMIC LAWS under any circumstances.
2- Separation of religion and state- including, no one with an outfit representing islam will be able to work in a public place- meaning no Hejab for women & rag on men's head. This is a lot better than what Ataturk, the hero of the Turkish people declared! anyone in Islamic garb preaching Islam in public, will be beheaded!! boy secularism came fast for Turky, that announcement was followed by, if women are covered in hejab they cannot work.


Under our definition of Secularism, there is no place for any official religion.

ActivistChat Definition of Secularism and Democracy is similar to the Iranian Scholar Professor Esmail Nooriala Farsi lecture. Secularism in current usage is generally complete separation of Government from Religion and any Ideology (i.e Marxism). Democracy without Secularism and Secular Parties has only one time usage as we had seen Nazi Party , Khomenist (Tazi) In Iran and very recently by Islamist Hamas Party in Palestine and repeated many times in past history in many countries
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyrus wrote:
blank wrote:
cyrus wrote:
blank wrote:
Thank you Cyrus.
It would be great if some of the trustworthy Iranian historians start looking at the U.S. Bill of Rights and make a similar draft fit for Iran, as Iranian Bill of Rights... without Bill of Rights democracy is meaningless.

Dear Blank,
Excellent Idea, I will pass your request to those who are in the possible political leadership position, Iranian Scholars, Writers, Poets, and fellow Activists ....
United States Bill of Rights
Any suggestion for initial draft?
Regards,
Cyrus


One of my basic suggestions is propsed in my previous e-mail:

"BILL OF RIGHTS for Iran. Number 1 on that bill should be, the philosophy of Zardosht will replace Shia Islam- that is known to be Iran's official religion-NO ISLAMIC LAWS under any circumstances.
2- Separation of religion and state- including, no one with an outfit representing islam will be able to work in a public place- meaning no Hejab for women & rag on men's head. This is a lot better than what Ataturk, the hero of the Turkish people declared! anyone in Islamic garb preaching Islam in public, will be beheaded!! boy secularism came fast for Turky, that announcement was followed by, if women are covered in hejab they cannot work.


Under our definition of Secularism, there is no place for any official religion.

ActivistChat Definition of Secularism and Democracy is similar to the Iranian Scholar Professor Esmail Nooriala Farsi lecture. Secularism in current usage is generally complete separation of Government from Religion and any Ideology (i.e Marxism). Democracy without Secularism and Secular Parties has only one time usage as we had seen Nazi Party , Khomenist (Tazi) In Iran and very recently by Islamist Hamas Party in Palestine and repeated many times in past history in many countries


Sounds good...thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: USA Bill of Rights Reply with quote

1- United States Bill of Rights

USA Bill of Rights wrote:
USA Bill of Rights

Source: http://www.constitution.org/billofr_.htm

[Bill of Rights]
The conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added.

Article the first [Not Ratified]

After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one Representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred Representatives, nor less than one Representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of Representatives shall amount to two hundred; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred Representatives, nor more than one Representative for every fifty thousand persons.


Article the second [Amendment XXVII - Ratified 1992]

No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.


Article the third [Amendment I]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Article the fourth [Amendment II][4]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


Article the fifth [Amendment III]

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


Article the sixth [Amendment IV]

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Article the seventh [Amendment V]

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


Article the eighth [Amendment VI]

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Article the ninth [Amendment VII]

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.


Article the tenth [Amendment VIII]

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


Article the eleventh [Amendment IX]

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


Article the twelfth [Amendment X]

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.



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Notes:

4. In the Congressional Statutes at Large, Vol. 1, Page 97, at http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=001/llsl001.db&recNum=220, the first and third commas are omitted, so that it reads:

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

The question remains open of where those additional, and grammatically spurious, commas came from, but they do not change the legal meaning of the provision, and it would not be erroneous to omit them.



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3- Fundamental right European Union
Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMain article: Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union ... WikipediaŽ is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., ...


4- [PDF] A Bill of Rights for the European Union?File Format: PDF/Adobe
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Iran shopkeepers strike over VAT introduction
Wed Oct 8, 2:44 PM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081008/wl_mideast_afp/iraneconomytaxstrike_081008184433

TEHRAN (AFP) - Shopkeepers in Iran's traditional bazaars pressed on with strikes on Wednesday to protest against the government's introduction of value added tax amid mounting pressure on retail prices.


An AFP correspondent saw shuttered stalls in the main bazaar in the capital amid press reports of shutdowns in the big provincial cities of Isfahan, Mashhad and Tabriz.
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