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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:22 pm    Post subject: Iran Votes By David Frum Reply with quote


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Today is election day in Iran – and a very strange sort of election it will be. In an important essay in the New York Post, Amir Taheri calls this an election that kills illusions – above all the illusion that Iran can be reformed from within. His ominous but powerful conclusion:

“[T]he Bush administration needs to develop a coherent analysis of the Iranian situation. It must decide whether or not Iran is, in the words of the State Department's No. 2, Richard Armitage, a ‘sort of democracy,’ or a despotic regime using religion and violence to remain in power.

“Short-term Realpolitik may counsel an accommodation with the present regime in Tehran, much as it has determined Washington's China policy. But that would mean the premature death of President Bush's ambitious plan for ‘a new Middle East.’ It would also give the Islamic Republic time to assemble an arsenal of nuclear weapons, and other weapons of mass destruction, which the Tehran leadership regards as its best insurance policy.”

Michael Ledeen observes in NRO that the Iranian regime’s methods of control are becoming more violent all the time. “Demonstrations five days ago in the western city of Marivan were so potent that the regime sent helicopter gunships to shoot down protestors, and there are reports that members of the regular armed forces joined the demonstrators.”

Violence may stifle dissent; it cannot confer legitimacy. The Financial Times reports that turnout in the elections has been desultory: “[F]ew polling stations in Teheran experienced more than a trickle of voters.”

As their domestic repression has become more heavy-handed, the Iranian mullahs have become more determined than ever to acquire nuclear weapons so as to defy all external challenge. On Thursday, USA Today reported the discovery of still more bomb-making technology – this time, uranium-enrichment centrifuges at a military base in east Teheran.

The Democrats and President Bush’s critics want endlessly to reargue the war in Iraq. But the world has not ceased to revolve while we examine our navels. The Middle East continues to fester – Iran is heading toward a crisis that its leaders believe they can survive only by intimidation and terror – and the United States cannot much longer postpone deciding what it will do about this menace. [/size]
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:33 pm    Post subject: Bush administration says elections neither free nor fair Reply with quote

Bush administration says elections neither free nor fair

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(02-20) 11:45 PST WASHINGTON (AP) --

The Bush administration on Friday criticized Iran's Islamic fundamentalist government for a pre-election crackdown on opponents.

Focusing on the closing of the offices of two reformist publications and of the largest reformist party as well as the disqualification of some candidates, State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said, "These are reasons for concern."

The criticism coincided with a reformist boycott of the balloting Friday although President Mohammad Khatami, who is considered a reformist in some Western circles, voted and declared: "Whatever the result of the elections, we must accept it."

The administration withheld judgment on the balloting while it was still under way. But it was not restrained about criticizing the Tehran government over the pre-election crackdown as failing to provide for free and fair elections.

The government took actions that were "not consistent with international norms," Ereli said.

On another front, Secretary of State Colin Powell called on Iran to follow the lead of Libya and pledge to end all programs for development of weapons of mass destruction.

Powell, in a speech at Princeton University, said Iran was moving too slowly on its promise to disclose its nuclear activities to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Last week, officials of the U.N. agency said Iran had failed to reveal its possession of plans for an advanced uranium centrifuge machine.

Nor has Iran fulfilled a promise to the British, French and German foreign ministers to suspend its uranium enrichment, IAEA Director Mohamed El Baradei said this week.

Iran has provided some information to the IAEA but not all that it could, Ereli said Friday.

He called Iran's cooperation with the agency "mixed at best" and said "this is not a situation of a country that has come clean."
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Ections in Iran invalid and not meeting standards Reply with quote

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WASHINGTON — The Bush administration weighed in Friday on two troubled states that have taken very different paths, and suggested the Iranians may want to take a lesson from the Libyan government, which agreed in December to give up its pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Tehran started another day on the wrong foot, according to administration officials who called Friday's parliamentary elections in Iran (search) invalid and not meeting international standards for free and fair voting.

Even before the voting began Friday, some of Iran's leading reformists conceded defeat. Their concession followed the Feb. 1 resignation from Parliament of about 120 lawmakers who were protesting a move by Iran's most powerful hardliners to bar more than 2,000 reform-minded candidates from seeking office.

"Candidates have been barred from participating in the elections in an attempt to limit the choice of the Iranian people for their government. These actions do not represent free and fair elections (search) and are not consistent with international norms," State Department spokesman Adam Ereli told reporters.

Instead of participating in the elections, reformists held a sit-in at the Parliament, encouraged a voter boycott and accused hardliners of rigging the vote.

But one reformist lawmaker said even with the ban, he and his allies will look for ways to bring change to the country.

"This doesn't mean we will disappear from the political scene. The political scene is not just the government," said Reza Yousefian.

In fact, the drama of the elections was not so much the ban or the results, but the turnout -- expected to be about 50 percent nationwide.

Many Iranians were expected to stay home not only because of the disillusionment with politics, but because of lost faith in President Mohammad Khatami (search), who is considered a reformist in some Western circles.

Khatami didn't alleviate any concerns when he responded to complaints about the vote by saying: "Whatever the result of the elections, we must accept it."

Reformists accuse hardliners of blocking Khatami's efforts for change, and they argue that if Islamic conservatives take back control of Parliament, they could undo some of Iran's recent reforms and return to a pattern of clamping down on newspapers -- two were shut down earlier this week, tightening dress codes for women and increasing restrictions on the ability of young men and women to interact in public.

Islamic conservatives say that the reformist candidates were barred because they did not qualify. They also told Iranian citizens not to worry about a rollback of reforms, even as they eye the presidency in next year's elections.

"Our first step was the city council, the second step is the Parliament, after the Parliament, we can see what the third step is," said Hossein Fadaei, a candidate for parliament.

With results not expected for a few days, the Bush administration responded to the crackdown on the reformists by saying the government's actions were indicative of a regime that does not care about its people.

"I think the Iranian people have hopes and dreams. And the way to realize those aspirations is through the election of a government that represents them. To the extent that they cannot do that or to the extent that those aspirations or that will is frustrated, that's disappointing," Ereli said.

Iran's Hardline Tactics Extend Beyond Ballot Box

Meanwhile, Malaysian police released a report on Friday about interrogations it held with partners of A.Q. Khan, the father of Pakistan's nuclear program, and the man who admits to selling centrifuge parts to Iran. Centrifuge machines can be used to enrich uranium.

The parts were sold on the black market in the mid-1990s for around $3 million, according to Malaysian police. The man interviewed by the Malaysians allegedly handled the sale to Iran.

At the same time, U.N. inspectors inside Iran said they found equipment that can enrich uranium (search)for weapons and it is far more advanced than anything Iran has admitted having. Ereli said the discovery is not consistent with a country that's truly trying to come clean on weapons programs.

"It is important that Iran stop its nuclear program, full stop, not pieces of it here -- talk about pieces of it here and hide pieces of it there. They need to get out of the nuclear weapons game completely," Ereli said.

Iran has responded that its equipment is just used to produce power, and insists its intentions are peaceful.

While Ereli said that cooperation from Iran with the International Atomic Energy Agency (search) has been "mixed at best," IAEA Director Mohamed El-Baradei said this week that Iran also has not fulfilled a promise to the British, French and German foreign ministers to suspend its uranium enrichment.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said that the Iranian government needs to hasten its steps toward admitting its efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction (search).

"After 18 years of trying to deceive the International Atomic Energy Agency and the world, Iran is slowly -- still too slowly -- coming forward with answers needed by the IAEA and by the rest of the international community to make sure that they are not violating their obligations. It needs to pledge an end -- not just a suspension -- to all of its WMD programs and it must follow those promises with action," Powell told an audience at a conference at Princeton University.

Libya Making All the Right Moves (search)

Powell said Iran and other rogue nations should learn from Libyan leader Muammar al-Qaddafi (search), who realized after years of trying to pursue weapons of mass destruction that it was not making his people better off nor elevating his country's status internationally.

He said al-Qaddafi made the correct decision to give up his pursuit and deal with the international community in a peaceful way.

"And now we are working in a spirit of cooperation and openness with President Colonel Qadhafi," Powell said.

Libya agreed to open up its facilities to inspectors, who have removed thousands of pounds of equipment. But an IAEA report made known Friday reveals just how far Libya had progressed in the pursuit of nuclear weapons, importing nuclear materials via the black market all the way up to the end of 2003.

It had also managed to process imported enriched uranium into a small amount of plutonium, the material needed to put together the core of a nuclear bomb.

According to remarks by diplomats familiar with the report, Tripoli had produced roughly seven pounds of plutonium, not enough to make a bomb, despite efforts as far back as 1985 to do so.

Libyan officials have maintained that the country never produced chemical, biological or nuclear weapons but acknowledged having the material, the expertise and the facilities.

The IAEA report, prepared by El-Baradei and being presented officially at a meeting next month, says Libya was in direct violation of agreements it made with the IAEA, an agency of the United Nations, and if failed to report a wide variety of secret nuclear activities.

Nonetheless, its recent cooperation is not going unnoticed by the United States, which could take steps soon to ease a ban on U.S. travel to Libya that has been in place for more than 20 years.

In November, Powell extended the prohibition on travel, but he also took the extraordinary step of allowing a review of that ban after 90 days. Usually, the prohibition is renewed annually.

Sunday will be the 90th day since the ban was renewed, and an official said that the administration could act to ease the ban, which prohibits Americans from using U.S. passports to travel to Libya.

Depending on Libya's future cooperation, including its revealing details of its weapons program and identifying suppliers, the United States may also make further moves in the future. Currently, Libya is listed as one of seven state sponsors of terrorism, which puts it in a category in which trade is restricted, U.S. oil companies can not operate there and U.S. economic aid is banned as is American support for Libyan loan requests in international lending institutions.

Fox News' Teri Schultz and Molley Henneberg, the Associated Press and Tehran reporter Roxana Saberi contributed to this report.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:10 pm    Post subject: The proof is in the pictures!!!! Reply with quote

ANYONE who says that Iranians were rushing to the polls yesterday, is lying! 97% of Iranians stayed home and boycotted the sham elections of Friday, February 20th. In a city of 12 million, does this (below)not look like a ghost town??? WHY does the media NOT tell the truth about the elections in Iran??? When only 3% of the country voted, equalling to 1 million out of 45 million eligible voters...why does media NOT tell it like it is?




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right now there is a debate about the iranian "elections" on the italian Tv.

As always they speak of "victory of the conservatives" and defeat of the "reformists"

There are some iranians, one of them accuses the leftist activists saying that they know only protest America and support the regimes.

He has said that he favors the economic embargo against the Islamic Republic Regime,and that female leftist "activist" said that embargo is a crime..

there is another leftist "intellectual" which says that he doesn't believe that Iran promotes terrorism in the middle east and thet "those are the fantasies of the american neocons"

and now a female iranian teacher, which teaches in an italian university which says that Shah was an absolute evil,etc.. etc..

i have no words.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: all Reply with quote

All I must say is "Animal Farm" -
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: d Reply with quote

They will keep lying their ugly faces off until the Iranian people rise up and break them down... Their days are numbered!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: all Reply with quote

nushijan wrote:
All I must say is "Animal Farm" -


Is the repressive Mafia clerical dictatorship regime in Iran is based on Animal Farm Novel by George Orwell?
"We pigs (Islamic Clerical Mafia regime in Iran and their supporters Britian, France, German governments) are brainworkers. The whole management and organization of the farm depend on us. Day and night, we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples." While this swinish brotherhood sells out the revolution, cynically editing the Seven Commandments to excuse their violence and greed, everyone once again left hungry and exhausted, no better off than in the days when humans ran the farm. "

The above piece by George Orwell is related to the Stalininst system. It is an insult to Animals to compare them with the Islamic Clerical Regime, its Supreme Gand Virus and their EU governments supporters.
Khameni , Rafsanjani, Prince Charles ..... = Grand Supreme Virus
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday was a day of Victory not for the hard-liners as the opportunist European Press tells us,but for the People of Iran !!

They have voted No to the Islamic Republic Regime by not going to vote.

They stayed at home so showing all the world that they want Regime Change Now.

Less than 5% went to vote.

Yesterday,by boycotting the mullahs'own "elections" you iranian have answered to the first question in the Referendum:

1)You want the Islamic Republic?

You answered No!

2)You want Regime Change?

You answered Yes.

The rest of the questions will be done soon.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a lying by the islamic republic!!!!!!
I get angry when I hear it.

They said 50,6% of Iranians voted when the real number is 5% for Tehran and around 10% for the country as a whole.

This lie is so big it will not succeed. Every iranian person european media has talked with inside Iran say they have not voted.

If governments in the west accept the number, 50,6% given by IRI, then I don´t know what to say. Iran is making nuclear weapon and 90% of iranians don´t want this regime. Tomorrow, the countries supporting the islamic republic to the last second will get no contracts with Iran.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: d Reply with quote

Iranian Boy: Don't be worried.. First of all the BOYCOTT was a success no matter what the mullahs say. Second of all the governments know exactly what the situation in Iran is and because of this, the US will likely USE it as leverage against the Europeans who love the clerics. Lastly, just ignore their trash, filth and lies - If we complain about their fake numbers than we are doing them a service just like everyone who talked up Janet Jackson after the Half Time Show incident.. Lets just say SCREW their number and talk about how successful it WAS!!!!

-the BOTTOM LINE!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iranian Boy, i don't want to make you angry, but what i am about to tell maybe will makes you angrier:


The Official Media here (Europe) writes (i have read it right before) : "50,5% of Iranians have voted and chosen the conservative candidates.Last year the tournout was 63% " !!!!!!

Can you imagine ????


NOW THESE MEDIA WANT THE PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE IRANIANS HAVE VOTED AND VOTED FOR KHAMENEI !!!!!!


SURELY THEY HAVE BELIEVED TO THE REGIME'S NUMBERS..

AFTER ALL,WE HAVE SEEN AS THEY HAVE BELIEVED IN THE 100% TOURNOUT UNDER SADDAM'S REGIME (IN FACT, WE SEE THAT 100% OF THE IRAQIS STILL WOULD VOTE SADDAM! Laughing )AND NOW THEY SEEM TO BELIEVE SADDAM'S LIES ABOUT THE WMD !

THEY BELIEVE IN ARAFAT'S "CONDEMNATION" OF YESTERDAY'S HOMICIDE ATTACK,EVEN IF THEY KNOW THAT AL AQSA BRIGADES ARE PART OF ARAFAT'S AL FATAH MOVEMENT !!!



DEAR FRIENDS, YOU CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW FRUSTRATED I AM WHEN I HEAR THE MEDIA HEAR SAY A LOT OF LIES ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES.

THERE ARE MANY IRANIAN JOURNALISTS HERE, BUT MANY OF THEM SPEAK OF A STRUGGLE BETWEEN "REFORMISTS" AND CONSERVATIVES.

THAT'S WHY I HAVE STOPPED HEARING AND READING NEWS FROM THE EU MEDIA.

MY SOURCES OF INFORMATION ARE HERE IN THE INTERNET,THROUGH YOUR SITE,SMCCDI,IRAN VAJAHAN, FOX NEWS,ETC.. ETC..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: The Great Iranian Election Fiasco Reply with quote

The Great Iranian Election Fiasco
What actually happened; what we must do.
by Michael Ledeen
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Even for a regime that excels in deception, the announcement by the Iranian government that nearly half the eligible voters cast their ballots in Friday's election is an extraordinary bit of effrontery. And even those Western "news" outlets that decided to pronounce the turnout "low" (the BBC, of course, echoed the party line by talking about a large turnout), did so by comparing the official numbers with those of the last parliamentary election, when more than 60 percent voted for the toothless "reformers."

The real numbers are a tiny fragment of the official ones. The overall turnout came in at about twelve percent, with Tehran a bit lower, and places like Isfahan and Qom (of all places, the headquarters of the Shiite religious elite) closer to five percent. The only major city with a substantially higher turnout was Kerman, due to a local factor: A widely hated hardliner was running, and many people judged it more important to demonstrate their contempt for him personally by voting for others than to show their rejection of the regime en bloc by abstaining.

It shouldn't have been hard to get this story right, at least in its broad outlines. A leading member of the old parliament, Mehdi Karoubi, was asked why he did badly, and he replied, publicly: "because the people boycotted the election."

Keep in mind that the reporters knew full well that all but a handful of polling sites in Tehran — the only place they were able to observe, thanks to the usual clampdown on information — were virtually dead. They knew, or should have known, that the regime had trotted out more than 10,000 "mobile voting booths," that is to say, trucks driving around inviting people to vote. They surely heard the stories — widely repeated on Iranian web sites — of thousands of phony ballots, and of citizens being forced to turn over their identity cards, thus making it possible for others to pose as legitimate voters. They must also have heard that high-school students were warned that if they did not vote they would never get into the universities.

But they did not report any of this. The Washington Post's Karl Vick wrote an upbeat report, as if the hardliners had won a normal election, and CNN's legendary Ms. Amanpour stressed that Iran was changing for the better since the dress code for women had loosened a bit in the past few years. Neither seemed to know that there were violent protests throughout the country, that several people had been killed and scores wounded by the regime's thugs, and that highways were blocked because the regime was afraid the protests would spread. There was enough electoral fraud to fill any Western news report, had the correspondents wished to do so. As the website www.iranvajahan.net reported, "In Firoozabad, Fars, people clashed with the Law Enforcement Forces when a cleric by the name of Yunesi-Sarcheshmeyi was declared the winner. In Miando-ab, West Azerbijan, some of the cheaters have publicly confessed how they were taught by a cleric to remove the voting stamp from their ID cards and vote again. In Malekan in East Azerbijan, people were told that 45,000 are eligible to vote, yet the number of declared votes for candidates totaled 50,000! Everyone including children and old people have poured into the streets of Malekan and there is non-stop running battles with the Law Enforcement Forces." The Student Movement Coordinating Committee for Democracy in Iran recorded violent clashes in Izeh, a southern city where a local politician was murdered by security forces when he protested his exclusion from the electoral list. Other protests were reported from Khorram-Abad, Firoozabad, and Dehdasht in the south, in Isfahan, and near the Afghan border in Mashad, Sabze-war, Nelshaboor, and Tchenaran.
Instead of this important information, we get the usual election-day analysis, as if a real election had been conducted, and one could understand something important about Iranian public opinion from the official numbers.

Oddly, the wild distortion of the real results does show something that the mullahs do not want us to know. They fear the Iranian people, knowing how deeply the people hate them, and they believe they must continue to tell a big lie about popular support for the regime. But the people know better. Thus, the demonstrations.

The regime clearly intends to clamp down even harder in the immediate future. Hints of this were seen in the run-up to the election, when Internet sites and foreign broadcasts were jammed, the few remaining opposition newspapers shut down, and thousands of security forces poured into the major cities. One wonders whether any Western government is prepared to speak the truth about Iran, or whether they are so determined to arrive at make-believe deals — for terrorists that are never delivered, for promises to stop the nuclear program, that are broken within minutes of their announcement, or for help fighting terrorism while the regime does everything in its power to support the terrorists — that they will play along and pretend, as Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage has put it, that "Iran is a democracy."

For those interested in exposing hypocrisy, it is hard to find a better example than all those noble souls who denounced Operation Iraqi Freedom as a callous operation to gain control over Iraqi oil, but who remain silent as country after country, from Europe to Japan, appeases the Iranian tyrants precisely in order to win oil concessions.

Meanwhile, the only Western leader who consistently speaks the truth about Iran is President George W. Bush, and the phony intellectuals of the West continue to call him a fool and a fascist. Meanwhile, his most likely Democrat opponent, Senator John Kerry, sends an e-mail to Tehran Times, Iran's official English-language newspaper, promising that relations between the United States and Iran would improve enormously if Kerry were to be elected next November.

Finally, perhaps our enterprising journalists could ask the administration how it can be, three years after inauguration, that we still have no Iran policy. Yes, Virginia, there is still no National Security Presidential Directive (NSPD) on Iran, even though Iran is the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, and we claim to be in a war against the terror masters.

Faster, please.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radio Farda wrote:
A Tabriz voter says soldiers at an army barracks where his brother serves were told to turn in their ID cards so that ballots could be filled in their names.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear redemption and Stefania

Thanks for your comments. The west leaders have well understood that <10% voted, <5% in Tehran. Normal people however don´t know due to the pro IRI media here.
However today I read an article in a famous newpaper saying that almost no one voted.

www.iranvajahan.net is a very good and active news site
I also like these
www.iranianvoice.org
www.yaqoot.com
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