[FREE IRAN Project] In The Spirit Of Cyrus The Great

9karevatan · Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 843

u have not read the quran or u have read corrupted translations by shias and sunnis....the bible was a book of god until it was edited at the nicene conferences...as far as compassion and love are concerned....when the quran teaches to have peace and to appriciate one another and discourages violence ....that seems more important then to just come out and say that we must all love eachother and be happy Wink

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American Visitor · Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 224

9karevatan,

I agree we should all love each other and be happy. The reason we are here is because there are many people who are committing atrocities in the name of God.

Some people think the answer is to reject the idea of God entirely, but this won't work. The Communists tried that and it didn't help them. People need something to believe bigger than themselves to devote their lives to, and they need a moral compas. Unfortunately athiesm and agnostacism don't fulfill the needs for many people. If we don't offer them something better we will pay the price-as Europe is doing right now.
The Americans who still have a deep religious commitment have had to rescue the Europeans, who live in the post Christian era, and are much more sophisticated than us, from fascist regimes twice now; Natziism and communism. It appears they are falling for the third time to Islamism and are too foolish and morally blind to know it.

If you can love other people and teach other people to love each other without danger of them retreating back into the Islamist cesspool more power too you. Ultimately the purpose of religion is to make us better people. I'm quesy about the Koran because there are so many people who interpret it differently from you and do terrible crimes in God's name. Christians also do crimes, but they can't justify them from the teachings of Jesus or His disciples and they know it.

I'm not sure what you mean about the Nicene council changing the Bible. I have studied the Bible in Greek which is probably the language of the New Testament and have studied the history of the Bible and find no evidence either the New or the Old Testament have been changed significantly over the last 2000 years in which we have records. There have been arguments over whether some books should be included but the books themselves haven't undergone any significant alteration.

9karevatan · Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 843

u are not realizing that the muslims in the world are using separate documents such as the hadith and sunna to do their wrongdoings......only in the hadith does it say that women must be stoned but theres no such thing in the quran...and the quran claims to be complete and fully detailed
so u see.......they themselves dont even know what the quran says
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iran iranam iraaanam
ke az to daram in jaanam
janam fadayat
mikhanam
payande baadi IRANam!!!!!!!

American Visitor · Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 224

9karevtan,

Keep up the good work. It is not fair to blame you or your group for what other people do.

9kare vatan · Guest

im soo happy that u are not against me and i respect u for whatever u believe in as well....consider me your brother ok??

too bad u dont understand farsi.....
chon khelli mokhlesim agha Wink

9kare vatan · Guest

im soo happy that u are not against me and i respect u for whatever u believe in as well....consider me your brother ok??

too bad u dont understand farsi.....
chon khelli mokhlesim agha Wink

American Visitor · Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 224

9karetavan,

Anyone who is for peace, complete religious freedom, civil rights, and democracy is my brother. Differences in religion should never keep people from being friends so long as they respect other people's right to believe differently. That is what America is all about.

9karevatan · Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 843

American Visitor · Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 224

9karevatan,

I like your list.

1. Great.

2. Absolutely.

3. Agreed if you define usury as criminal behavior or loan sharking.

4. Good dream. In our country we call this the welfare state. It doesn't work well if people get too much charity since they learn to game the system. To provide people with some basics such as food is good.

5. I don't know how you will work this. In our country we have a constitution which guarantees minority rights. It is hard to have this work however when one side appoints judges who decide to legislate from the bench rather than uphold the law as written in the constitution.

6. Good goal, will never happen with imperfect people; but it is worth a try.

7. Good.

8. Environmental protection is key to prosperity. Also family size planning is needed. The best way to get reasonable family size is liberation of women since they are better at reasonable family planning than men. As a man I hated to say that but it seems to be true.

Great list.