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Spenta
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Posts: 1829
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:31 pm Post subject: Prayer Leader: Iran Must Aquire Nuclear Bombs to Fight Enemy |
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So, the EU stratgy at this point, is to let the Mullah$ get a bomb, but not use it ???
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Story in Persian:
http://web.peykeiran.com/net_iran/irnewsbody.aspx?ID=16003
The Prayer Leader of Ooroomeeyeh, announced during yesterday's friday sermon, that Iran must develop a nuclear bomb, and he quoted Ayatollah Khomeini in saying "And the US Can't do a d.a.m.n. thing about it". He urged heads of Iran's nuclear weapons programs to continue to develop the knowledge for atomic bomb making and pointed out that Muslim countries are now aquiring nuclear bombs to fight the enemy, since Israel has nuclear bombs. He then led the crowds in chants of death to the USA and death to Israel. |
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eski
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 157 Location: Washington State, U.S.A.
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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You know..........If these whacko Mullahs persist on developing Nukes they are playing with a fire that they will live to regret. The United States and other countries may have nuclear weapons but they are for deterrent purposes rather than offensive perposes. There lies the difference in the responsible posession of such weapons. If a country with radical Islamist as their governing body develop such weapons they will force responsible countries to initiate a pre-emptive response that could be devastating. My fear is that things will get decisively worse before they get better. I believe that radical factions from the Middle East will detonate a radiological weapons of some sort in America and at that point there will be no turning back. The people of the United States that have been content to sit back and let the politicians foul things up at home will take action to force the government to protect the country. At that juncture, it could go either way........ The citizens of the offending country will rise up and bring the offending radicals to justice or the United States will destroy every military and paramilitary capability that suspect countries posess. The problem with the second option is that so many innocest people will become casualties. The radical left-wing of the U.S. and it's allies will be able to do nothing to deter a response and their efforts to undermine U.S. action will be futile. The only deterrant that could stop a response would be for the average citizens of the radical Islamic countries to initiate their own response to bring down their government. This would get widespread support from most countries of the world. The alternative is too devastating to consider. I truely hope that I am wrong and this doesn't take place but the direction that things are heading in make it appear probable. |
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redemption
Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 1158 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly, I can understand where you're coming from, but I must tell you - the nuclear strike option is one that is in NO ONE's best interest.. The Nuke thing is used as a tool and distraction - the fanatics (Mullahs for example) don't care about their ocountry and would probably be happy if there was a nuclear war because the country that they don't love or even appreciate and the people they hate would be destroyed, which they wouldn't mind at all..
Nuclear war should be out of the question PERIOD - NOT EVEN AN OPTION. We should put pressure on the European governments to reduce and eliminate support for this regime so the Iranian people have the real chance at overthrowing the government, and as Bush has said on many equations, really start the democratic revolution.. Bush's whole argument falls apart if the Mullahs retain power and there is no democratic revolution!
best,
r _________________ IRANIANS UNITE
PERSIA LIVES ON!!
FREE IRAN NOW! |
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eski
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 157 Location: Washington State, U.S.A.
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:58 am Post subject: |
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I agree Redemption, Nukes need to be abolished. How do we do that though with so much unregulated uranium leaving Africa? The source needs to be controlled and then the technology. The most disturbing part of the nuclear question is, " Where are all the missing nukes from the former Soviet Union?" All of those suitcase nukes and several warheads from dismantled weapons have been missing for some time. Just think if a group like al qaida gets posession of something like that. Those irrational bastards won't hesitate to light one of those things off. Scarry stuff there.I don't even understand the mindset of those people though. It must come from indoctrination from childhood through their adult years. Only severe brainwashing performed throughout ones life could produce people like that . |
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trainspotter9
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:37 am Post subject: |
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eski, the mullahs will not use the nuclear bomb. They're interests are in Iran, and they will not do something that would destroy Iran.
If Iran gets the nuke, it will have the power of a thousand suns; |
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stefania
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 4250 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:44 am Post subject: |
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trainspotter9 wrote: | eski, the mullahs will not use the nuclear bomb. They're interests are in Iran, and they will not do something that would destroy Iran.
If Iran gets the nuke, it will have the power of a thousand suns; |
It is something that they aim to do.. Destroy Iran,Israel, America, Europe..
even though some in Europe and the Kerry/NIAC/Ebadi Lobby did not realize yet. _________________ Referendum AFTER Regime Change
"I'm ready to die for you to be able to say your own opinions, even if i strongly disagree with you" (Voltaire) |
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trainspotter9
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:30 am Post subject: |
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that's ridiculous. Why do you care so much about Iran getting nukes? Why don't you care more about the internal situation rather than weakening Iran's future ability to defend against attacks from the outside?
What is your background Stefania? |
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stefania
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 4250 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:36 am Post subject: |
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NO TO THE MULLAHS' NUKE!!
A future democratic and peace loving Iran will have a right to own nukes.
But this regime must not be allowed to have any nukes!!
IRI is a Terrorist Regime.
do you agree ? _________________ Referendum AFTER Regime Change
"I'm ready to die for you to be able to say your own opinions, even if i strongly disagree with you" (Voltaire) |
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trainspotter9
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:41 am Post subject: |
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of course, but if Iran is weak now, they may never be an independant democratic state in the future.
We don't need a weak Iran. We need the power of A THOUSAND SUNS
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trainspotter9
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:42 am Post subject: |
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reza
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 466 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:05 am Post subject: |
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the power of a thousand suns comes from brave soldiers with their hearts inspired to fight for the glory of iran, the power of a thousand suns comes from ordinary men and women rising up in the face of oppression. Power is not being able to kill millions with the push of a button - this is plain dishonour and all nukes should be dismantled. perhaps then true bravery in war will be restored and then perhaps without the threat of nuclear winter hanging over our heads we can establish a soceity in which war bows down to intelligence. _________________ "When on the battlefield if you have the sole intention of breaking into the enemy lines, you will manifest martial valour. Furthermore if you are slain in battle you should be resolved to having your corpse facing the enemy" - Yamamoto tsunetomo |
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trainspotter9
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:10 am Post subject: |
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peace does not come from voluntarily giving up strength. Peace comes when there is mutual trust and respect. We need a U.N. army and the World Court as the abritrator of disputes between nations. Until then, we need Iran to have nukes as apartheid Israel, Pakistan, and the U.S. do too. |
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reza
Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 466 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:11 am Post subject: |
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we do not need the theocracy to obtain nukes, this is a dangerous weapon in the hands of fanatics, imagine a strike on israel, the backlash from america would wipe iran out! _________________ "When on the battlefield if you have the sole intention of breaking into the enemy lines, you will manifest martial valour. Furthermore if you are slain in battle you should be resolved to having your corpse facing the enemy" - Yamamoto tsunetomo |
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trainspotter9
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | we do not need the theocracy to obtain nukes, this is a dangerous weapon in the hands of fanatics |
THEY ARE NOT FANATICS. THEY ARE PERFECTLY RATIONAL COLD BLOODED BUSINESSMEN! THEY WILL NOT ATTACK ISRAEL! Rafsanjani even proposed Iran helping push a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian issue forward, and reestablishing diplomatic and trade ties with the U.S. He just wants to get richer. That's all. |
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trainspotter9
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:17 am Post subject: |
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This is human nature, stop acting like children. People just want power. Religion, idealogies, it's all bullsht. The mullahs just use religion to oppress and control the people. |
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