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ApolloXR
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Bravo. Bravo Ye Bahai.
Such reason and clarity is so rare that I was moved to post. However, the tone of your last few sentences troubles me and I wish to relieve you of that mindset.
I'm not Iranian, but I do care about what happens in Iran. Yes, I care because of America's selfish interest in removing a danger to itself, but I also care because I believe in freedom and those who fight for it.
You ask if there is hope for Iran and wonder why you feel coldness and doom. Yet I ask you: How long has it been since it was possible to have so much hope for Iran and the Middle East at large? When in recent history has there been so much cause for hope?
It is very dangerous there right now and it could go very badly, but it could also turn into the greatest rebirth of a civilization that the world has ever seen.
That is my hope.
I offer this as a way to keep your hope alive. There are millions of Americans out there who still believe in freedom. The silence of the news media didn't stop me from finding out what is going on and it won't stop them forever either. I believe in a free Iran, and they will too.
Have hope. |
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AMoo-Miki
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Iran tomorrow |
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Ye Bahai wrote: | The help is on the way. Once the US election is over America will do anything and everything to distablize Iran's present government. I'm sure many intelligence sources are working on this task right now.
This is not so much to help the Persians (can we change the name of Iran back to what it was before WWII: Persia, BTW) in torment. But it's because the US has realized all or most of its problem in Iraq and Afghanistan is brewing from the mullahs in Iran -- Just as Israel realies all it problem with Hezbellah is the work of the mullahs in Iran.
So pray George Bush wins the presidency again.
However, once Iran is won, would the Jews, the Bahais, the Christian be able to go back to Persia and prosper as they have done for last thousands of years. Probably NOT. Islam and its different factions will still rule supreme, one way or another. ![Shocked](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) |
Daghighan, hameye ma montazerim ke amrica o baghiye berizan iran o hame ro bokoshan (dorost mesle araagh), pedaraaye ma ro, familaye shoma ro, HAME RO! badesh man o to o shoma ( tanha iranian e zendeye donya) mirim mishinim tu iran. be neshaneye sepaasgozari babat e zahamateshoon, har chi tu sofrehamoon ghaza (bekhaanid NAFT) darim bara 99 saal midim beheshoon, khodemoon mesle geda-gorosnehaa mishinim rikhte ham o negaah mikonim.
va cheghadr zendegi zibast!
amrica be andazeye kaafi tu tarikhesh eshtebaah karde. man yeki deege be oonha ya mottahedaneshoon etemaad nadaram. HICH ADAM E AGHELI be kesi ke dooroogh poshte dooroogh baraye manafe e khodesh mige, ETEMAAD NEMIKONE!!!!
tahala hamin amrica be andaazeye kaafi GAND ZADE tu zendegi o tarikh e iran (ALBATTE BE LOTF E ye seri adamhaaye bi eraade - pedaranemoon - va ye gorooh bi savad - pedarbozorghamoon).
nemikhaam beshinam inja dars e tarikh bedam, motmaenan khodetoon khoob midunin ke amrica va doostash tahala chikara kardan. hame midunim ke in TAYEFE, age chizi be nafeshoon baashe anjam midan, va agar be nafeshoon nabashe anjam nemidan (albatte har ensaani intor e).
mosadegh o zadan zamin o shaah o alam kardan o shaah ke por ru shod khomeini o alam kardan, oonam ke deege shooresh o dar avord, aragh o ferestadan bara jang, zooreshoon gereft havapeymaye mosaferbari o zadan, saddam khast por ru baazi dar biyare zadan tu mokhesh, afghanestanesh ye joor e deege. in ye ghessast ke az aval-o-zaman boode, ta akhar ham edaame khahad daasht.
bazihaa shayad fekr mikonan ke kheyli zerangan o alaan az oon TAYEFE bara AZADIe iran estefaade mikonan, o badan mostaghel mishan. javab e man be in ha ye poozkhand e! shaah ham hamin kaar o kard, khomeini ham hamintor, saddam ham hamintor!!!!!
bi sebaatiye mantaghe be naf e man o shoma ya akhoonda nist. faghat be nafe oon kesaayi hastesh ke az in bi sebaati o jang estefaade mikonan ke ZAMIN bekharand o zamineshoon ke bozorg shod began in keshvar e madarishoone!
albatte kesi ham nist be oon akhoond e avazi ham ke nesheste oon bala bege, akhe adam e badbakht, mibini ke kesi nemikhaded, khodet mesle shaah, eyne bacheye adam biya boro peye kaaret bezar mellat zendegi konan!
man o to o shoma ham ke faghat baladim shoar bedim. eddeyi ham ke neshestan, montazeran ke DIGARAN, SOOESTEFADE KONHAA biyaan o bara inha bejangan. AGAR in mamlekat e shomahast, khodetoon berin begirinesh!!!! agar joratesh o nadarin, aghallan nazarin dast e gharibehaa o az ma badtaran beyofte! dast e kalle zardhayi bi mokh o bi liaghat beyofte!!!!! AGAR YE JO VATANPARASTI DASHTIN, hich vaght raazi nemishodin ke vatanetoon (ke shayad kheylihatoon aslan nadidinesh) beyofte daste ye mosht avam e avazitar az akhoonda! dast e ye mosht MOZDOOR ke chesheshoon be naft o servat e shomast, va aslan AHAMIYAT NEMIDAN ke shoma zeer e solteye akhoondin ya har hookoomat e deege!!! bara oonha mohemme ke hookoomati ke bar paa mikonan beheshoon sahmeshoon o bede, deege chizi az donya nemikhan.
3-4 ta adam e saadeloh ham 2 ta kalame yaad migiran, bedoon e fekr kardan raje be avaghebesh, bedoon e negahkardan be SABEGHEYE KHARAB e amrica o mottahedaash, bedoon e dars gereftan az tarikh, mishinan montazer ke KEY GHARAR E AMRICA IRAN O LIBERATE KONE!!!!!! Agar regime tu iran alan kharab e, motmaen baashin ke ghabl az in regime kheyli behtar bood, va bad az in regime, oon regime i ke amrica mikhad biyare be iran az ghabliha bad tar khahad bood!
ta hala in hame regime avorde ru kaar, kodoomesh o shoma pasandidin?
ya gharare ta abad inha regime biyaran baala sar e ma o ma ham begim in bad e avazesh konin?????
man be shakhse mokhalef e har joor dekhalat e KHAREJI tu iran hastam, che nezaami che ideological. NEZAAMI chon tahala be andazeye kaafi gand zadan o entezaarat e ghalat ham dashtan, deege nemikham ejaaze bedam gand bezanan. IDEOLOGICAL bara inke, baba inha be sar e mamlekat e khodeshoon che goli zadan ke mikhan biyan iran gol bezanan be sar e man o shoma????? mikhan biyan jorm haye jensi o ziyaad konan? fahsha ro bokonan ye FARHANG??? NA, NA, NA... man oon chizi ke oonha bara khodeshoon dorost kardan o BAD midunam va bara mamlekatam chiz e deegeyi mikham, MAN EJAAZE NEMIDAM KE OONHA BA IRAN KAARI O BOKONAN KE BA MAMLEKAT E KHODESHOON KARDAN!!
bush mikhad barande she ya har kes e deege, AGAR BEKHAN BE IRAN TA`ADI KONAN, MAN YEKI BAR MIGARDAM IRAN O BAHASHOON MIJANGAM!!! az akhoondha nefrat daram, az falsafashoon o AZ FARHANG E ARAB E HARDLY 1400 SAALASHOON MONZAJERAM, vali az oon bishtar AZ BI-FARHANGI E 600 SAALE YE AMRICAYI HA MOTANAFERAM!!!!
MAN FARHANG E GHANI O IRANI E KHODAM O DOOST DARAM O BAR ASAS E OON, MIKHAM BARA KESHVAR E KHODAM TASMIM BEGIRAM!!!!!
man 2 ta choice daram: BAD va BADTAR! man kenaar e BAD mistam o ba BADTAR mijangam ta vaz e iran az ini ke hast kharaabtar nashe. az hokoomat e iran be hichvajh raazi nistam, vali dar moghabel e TAJAVOZ e amrica kenaar e akhoondha mijangam. |
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Liberator
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Amoo!
Baba een harfa chiye digeh!? Why WAIT (!) till America attacks go back to your country and FIGHT NOW! TODAY! Against the MOLLAH's! Why are you sitting and writing crap! What are you waiting for! Is it not enough that mollah's are killing our people everyday! You're a hypocrite! Shame on you!
You will go back to Iran if the U.S. attacks and fights them but you don't dare set foot in Iran when the mollah's are and have been fighting and killing your people for 25 years! Your cheap talk doesn't work here, boro ba karo-zendegi't beres you have nothing to contribute to this cause for freedom as far as I can tell from your post.
Ba Sepaas! _________________ JAVID IRAN!
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AMoo-Miki
Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Faghat baraye roshan shodan e bazi chiza va ellat e inke man aghidam in rangiye minevisam.
man iran boodam ta hamin 2 hafte ghabl. be andazeye kaafi ham bekhatere jangidanam az zendegim aghab oftadam. be khodam ye break e chand saale dadam ke aghalan betunam darsi bekhoonam ke fardahaa, betunam be yeki do nafar khedmati karde baasham.
nemikham beshinam tarikh e zendegim o inja type konam, vali I HAVE DONE A BIT OF MY SHARE!
man montazer naneshastam ke jangi beshe ya har chiz e deegeyi, vali INCASE hamcho eshtebaahi rokh bede, barmigardam o in break e tahsilim o bikhiyaal misham.
bahs sar e jorat dashtan e man bara JANGIDAN ba mollah ha nist, bahs sar e ye kaare kheyli bozorgtar o organized hast.
and if u find this cheap, i am sorry for you, coz u and ppl like u think of giving away ur welth to others, and ppl like u LOVE to be ruled and stripped off ur rights. this regime or anyother would make no difference for u.
i have had enough of fighting with bare hands. ITS JUST LIKE THE PRE-REV, bara bazi ha dashtan e sabegheye zendan mohemtare ta zende o azaad moondan o BE HAR SHEKLI mobareze kardan.
pishnehaad e man be har kesi ke movafegh e hamleye nezaami be iran e, ine ke beshinan o raje be jang haye ghabli ke amrica karde va hookoomathayi ke amrica tahala sar e kaar gozaashte ro bekhoonan, oonvaght motavajeh mishan ke cheghadr daran eshtebaah mikonan.
AND TO THE DEAREST 'Liberator':
I HAVE contributed enough to the freedom of MY iran, in the past 7 years, not by writing or preaching but by FIGHTING, and not for any of these well known stupid organizations, but for the belief i had, a free iran. in fact i have more right to be talking of my ideas here or anywhere, coz my ideas are pure with love for my country, incase u need to know more abt the fightings i have done, do ask me. and i am sure anyone would give me the right to have a break after 7 years of fighting, running, and hiding, BUT STILL FIGHTING!
FOR A REALLY FREE IRAN we should desire. |
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Liberator
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Amoo-jaan!
What is the point of you coming here and telling us that you'll return and fight the Americans if they attack! I don't give a damn (excuse me!) if you would but what bothers me is that Iran IS (!) under attack and has been for the past 25 years! Instead of writing things that may or may not happen WRITE about the PRESENT!
For all I know your "fighting" could be "dreaming"!
Go take care of business and don't worry too much about America attacking Iran! Iran has been under attack for 25 years so wake up! MOLLAH's are killing our HAMIHANS and your writing articles about how you will go and fight the U.S. IF in the future they MIGHT decide to attack! Go figure!
I've got my message across, now continue with this worthless talk.
Ba Sepaas _________________ JAVID IRAN!
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AMoo-Miki
Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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well the talk is not worthless, it may awaken some who THINK we would have a better life if iran is LIBERATED!!
it MAY help ppl like u, to finally choose between BAD and WORSE!
it MAY help u understand under a new regime and during the change atleast tripple the number of ppl who have been killed by mullahs in all thes years, would be killed by the so called LIBERATERS (read it invaders) just in the course of - probabaly - 2 years.
it would cause ppl to think of simpler and probabaly a long-term proccess of eliminating them from power. after the revolution, the war caused a great damage to the democratic growing of us. after that the sanctions and all sort of ZEER E PAA KHAALI KARDAN, from inside and outside delayed it furtur. in the past couple of years we have got a great deal of freedom, its a great step, IT IS! we could go on with the same speed, and it would take us a generation o get the so called freedom. and we always have something or other to accelerate this. we may even see this ourselves someday.
and my dear 'Liberator' just coz someone gives some idea on this board that opposes ur idea, shouldnt make u jump on him and acuse him of whatever comes to ur mind. and I FEAR THE DAY PPL LIKE U TRY TO INVADE MY COUNTRY. for sure if u get the power, u would chop of the heads of all who think against u, or even different. so whats the difference between INVADERS such as u, and these old-fashioned mullahs?
and i wish someone mature enough to have a good reasoning could join this topic. |
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Liberator
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Amoo!!
Quote: | in the past couple of years we have got a great deal of freedom, its a great step, IT IS! |
Thank you! I don't need to elaborate on this any further do I my friends? He said it.
Quote: | I FEAR THE DAY PPL LIKE U TRY TO INVADE MY COUNTRY. |
I fear that you do fear when people like me invade Iran. - you'll have to think about this one for a while to figure out what i meant by that reply.
Quote: | for sure if u get the power, u would chop of the heads of all who think against u |
That's what the islamic regime in Iran does. I advocate open democratic trials for the criminals that have been destroying my motherland.
Once again I urge you if you truly are an Iranian "freedom fighter" to go back and fight the invaders! They are there already, get your ass up and go for it, we don't need your hypotethical reasonings as what if this and that happens here. Here we deal with reality! And the reality is that Iran has been invaded you just haven't realized it for some "funny" reason!
Your country has been invaded and the invaders are killing your people!
I fear that none of this means anything to you.
Ba Sepaas
P.S. It was a pleasure to expose you. _________________ JAVID IRAN!
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ok then liberator, how many iri thugs have you killed then? how many revolts have you stirred up? maybe you should practice what you preach to others. _________________ "When on the battlefield if you have the sole intention of breaking into the enemy lines, you will manifest martial valour. Furthermore if you are slain in battle you should be resolved to having your corpse facing the enemy" - Yamamoto tsunetomo |
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Liberator
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:36 am Post subject: |
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reza wrote: | ok then liberator, how many iri thugs have you killed then? how many revolts have you stirred up? maybe you should practice what you preach to others. |
reza shoma aram basheet,
I'm replying to the BS that this guy is writing! He's telling me that he will go and fight the "U.S. invaders" IF they attack Iran and i'm telling him that if he's so fu***** patriotic why doesn't he go and defend his country that has already been attacked/invaded, is under OCCUPATION and in which his compatriots are being killed everyday!
Get your heads out of your ***** and open up your eyes.
This is really incredible.
Ba Sepaas
(to other readers: sorry for the language but I fear it's the only kind they understand) _________________ JAVID IRAN!
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redemption
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Girls.. Girls... Girls.... what's the use of the bickering - lets all bash the f'ing mullahs!!!! _________________ IRANIANS UNITE
PERSIA LIVES ON!!
FREE IRAN NOW! |
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redemption
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:37 am Post subject: |
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AMoo-Miki wrote: | well the talk is not worthless, it may awaken some who THINK we would have a better life if iran is LIBERATED!!
it MAY help ppl like u, to finally choose between BAD and WORSE!
it MAY help u understand under a new regime and during the change atleast tripple the number of ppl who have been killed by mullahs in all thes years, would be killed by the so called LIBERATERS (read it invaders) just in the course of - probabaly - 2 years.
it would cause ppl to think of simpler and probabaly a long-term proccess of eliminating them from power. after the revolution, the war caused a great damage to the democratic growing of us. after that the sanctions and all sort of ZEER E PAA KHAALI KARDAN, from inside and outside delayed it furtur. in the past couple of years we have got a great deal of freedom, its a great step, IT IS! we could go on with the same speed, and it would take us a generation o get the so called freedom. and we always have something or other to accelerate this. we may even see this ourselves someday.
and my dear 'Liberator' just coz someone gives some idea on this board that opposes ur idea, shouldnt make u jump on him and acuse him of whatever comes to ur mind. and I FEAR THE DAY PPL LIKE U TRY TO INVADE MY COUNTRY. for sure if u get the power, u would chop of the heads of all who think against u, or even different. so whats the difference between INVADERS such as u, and these old-fashioned mullahs?
and i wish someone mature enough to have a good reasoning could join this topic. |
AMoo - be realistic please... _________________ IRANIANS UNITE
PERSIA LIVES ON!!
FREE IRAN NOW! |
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Liberator
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redemption wrote: | AMoo-Miki wrote: | well the talk is not worthless, it may awaken some who THINK we would have a better life if iran is LIBERATED!!
it MAY help ppl like u, to finally choose between BAD and WORSE!
it MAY help u understand under a new regime and during the change atleast tripple the number of ppl who have been killed by mullahs in all thes years, would be killed by the so called LIBERATERS (read it invaders) just in the course of - probabaly - 2 years.
it would cause ppl to think of simpler and probabaly a long-term proccess of eliminating them from power. after the revolution, the war caused a great damage to the democratic growing of us. after that the sanctions and all sort of ZEER E PAA KHAALI KARDAN, from inside and outside delayed it furtur. in the past couple of years we have got a great deal of freedom, its a great step, IT IS! we could go on with the same speed, and it would take us a generation o get the so called freedom. and we always have something or other to accelerate this. we may even see this ourselves someday.
and my dear 'Liberator' just coz someone gives some idea on this board that opposes ur idea, shouldnt make u jump on him and acuse him of whatever comes to ur mind. and I FEAR THE DAY PPL LIKE U TRY TO INVADE MY COUNTRY. for sure if u get the power, u would chop of the heads of all who think against u, or even different. so whats the difference between INVADERS such as u, and these old-fashioned mullahs?
and i wish someone mature enough to have a good reasoning could join this topic. |
AMoo - be realistic please... |
Amoo has his own agenda on here and it is not one of being realistic.... _________________ JAVID IRAN!
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AMoo-Miki
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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i dont think and feel i need to justify myself anymore HERE.
but ur way of talking and ur attitude shows everyone what kinda person u are. and i am very happy not to be thinking like u.
being realistic is not simply fighting, being realistic is taking good lessons from history (i guess u find THAt at least real), me and ppl who think like me have learnt from history, others have their own points in their discussion. u dont even have any point in ur discussion and u simply want to attack anyone who differs with u in idealogy. i cant waste my time no more on u. ppl would read and judge. |
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redemption
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AMoo what are you talking about when you say "People like you try to invade my country" - excuse me sir, most of us here are Iranians and it is our country whether or not we are no longer living in Iran. Secondly the majority of us aren't advocating invasion - we are working on educating the world public as well as pressuring world to support whatever Aspirations Iranians inside Iran have.
okay? _________________ IRANIANS UNITE
PERSIA LIVES ON!!
FREE IRAN NOW! |
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falcon59 wrote: | Are these unrests being reported by any WORLD NEWS Media? I am trying to get the word out to The Final Phase web site, but my problem is they want to see the story from a news media source. If you do not want to post it on this web site you can sent me a message PLEASE! Some you may want to vist the site http://p080.ezboard.com/fthefinalphasefrm18 or search on The final Phase and go to the ezboard to post.
Thanks in advance falcon59 |
This doesn't fall under the liberal agenda of the worlds news media outlets and therefore will not be reported on unless something so big it cannot be ignored happens in this regard. _________________ Liberalism is NOT a political philosophy.
It IS a MENTAL DISORDER! (Michael Savage)
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