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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:10 pm    Post subject: Quran - Muslims' License to Kill & How-to Bloodshed Reply with quote

Quran - Muslims' License to Kill & How-to Bloodshed
Oct 1, 2004, 13:24
Peace2004 - SCI Contributor



Take a look at the following 308 references to cruelty and orders-to-kill in Quran. Is it any wonder that MUSLIMs pick up few of these direct orders everyday around the world and justify killing and beheading of innocent people and children. First check the items that order to kill. My favorite is 8:17

"Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 17 "

In other words if you ask Mohammd ATA (if alive) who killed 3000 people on 911, he could say it was not me , it was Allah, and Ata has Quaran to prove it !

That was just one verse, read the rest.








Cruelty in the Quran

Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 6

Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 10

A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 24

Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 39, 90

For disbelievers is a painful doom. 104

For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 114

Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 126

The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 162

They will not emerge from the Fire. 167

Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 174

How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 175

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. 191

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 216

Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 217

Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 257 3: The Family of 'Imran

Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 4

Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 10

Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 12

Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 21

Theirs will be a painful doom. 77

All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 85

Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 87-88

Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 91

Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 105-6

Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 116

The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 131

We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 151

Theirs will be an awful doom. 176

Disbelievers do not harm Allah, but will have a painful doom. 177

Disbelievers will have a shamful doom. 178

Disbelievers will go to Hell. 196
4: The Women

Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will be burnt with fire and suffer a painful doom. 14

For the disbelievers, We have prepared a painful doom. 18

For disbelievers, We prepare a shameful doom. 37

Hell is sufficient for their burning. 55

Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 56

Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 74

Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 76

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 89

If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 91

Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 115

Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never be forgiven by Allah. 137

For the hypocrites there will be a painful doom. 138

Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers into hell. 140

The hypocrites will be in the lowest part of hell and no one will help them there. 145

You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don't are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 150-151

For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 160-1

God will guide disbelievers down a road that leads to everlasting hell. 168-169 5: The Table Spread

Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5

Disbelievers are the rightful owners of Hell. 10

Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 33

Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 36

Disbelievers will want to come out of the Fire, but will not. Their will be a lasting doom. 37

Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. 38

Allah makes some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom. 41

Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, and tooth for tooth. Non-muslims are wrong doers. 45

Christians will be burned in the Fire. 72

Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 73

Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 86 6: The Cattle

Many generations have been destroyed by Allah. 6

Allah will torment those how deny his revelations. 49

Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. 70

When nonbelievers die, the angels will deliver to them doom and degradation. 93

Allah allows some to disbelieve in the afterlife, and to take pleasure in their disbelief, so that he can torment them forever after they die. 113

Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 125

Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 128

Let the idolaters kill their children. It is Allah's will. 137 7: The Heights

How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them. 4-5

Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire. 36

Entire nations have entered the Fire. Some get a double torment. 38

Disbelievers will be excluded from heaven. Theirs will be a bed of hell. 40-41

Those in the Fire will cry out to those in heaven, saying: "Pour water on us." But Allah has forbidden that to disbelievers. 50 8: Spoils of War

Allah will throw fear into the hearts of the disbelievers, and smite their necks and fingers. 12

Disbelievers will be tormented in the Fire. 14

When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 15-16

Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 17

Those who disbelieve will be gathered into hell. 36



The angels smite the face and backs of disbelievers, saying: "Taste the punishment of burning!" 50

The worst beasts in Allah's sight are the disbelievers. 55

Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. 59-60 9: Repentance

Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. 3

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 5

Don't let idolaters tend the sanctuaries. Their works are in vain and they will be burned in the Fire. 17

of a painful doom to Christians and Jews. 34

Those who are tormented in the Fire will have their foreheads and backs branded. 35

If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 39

Disbelievers go to hell. 49

Those who vex the Prophet, for them there is a painful doom. 60

Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will burn in the fire of hell. 63

Allah promises hypocrites and disbelievers the fire of hell. Allah curses them. They will have a lasting torment. 68

Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 73

Allah will afflict disbelievers with a painful doom in this world and the Hereafter. 74

For disbelievers there will be a painful doom. 90

Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 111

Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 113

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 123 10: Jonah

Disbelievers will have a boiling drink and a painful doom. 4

Those who neglect Allah's revelations will make their home in the Fire. 7-8

Allah has destoyed entire generations. 13

Those who disbelieved will face a dreadful doom. 70

Allah drowned those who disbelieved his revelations. 73

Moses asked Allah to harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they would not believe until they saw the painful doom. 88 11: Hud

Those in the Fire will suffer as long as the heavens and earth endure. 106-7

Allah will fill hell with humans and jinn. 119
13: The Thunder

Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire 5

Those who do not answer Allah's call will go to hell. 18

Disbelievers will be tormented in this life, and suffer even more pain in the Hereafter. 33-34

The reward for disbelievers is the Fire. 35
14: Abraham

Woe unto the disbelievers. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2

Those who are in hell will be forced to drink festering water which they can hardly swallow. They will want to die, but they will not be able to. Theirs is a harsh doom. 16-17

Those in hell will be chained together. Their clothing will be made of pitch and fire will cover their faces. 49-50
16: The Bee

Disbelievers are evil and will dwell in hell forever. 27-29

Allah will add doom to doom for those who disbelieve. 88

Those who oppose Islam will face an awful doom. 94
17: The Children of Israel

Allah made hell to be a dungeon for disbelievers. 8

Allah has prepared a painful doom for those who disbelieve in the Hereafter. 10

Allah destroyed entire towns. 16

How many generations Allah has destroyed since Noah! 17

Allah intends to burn people in hell. 18

Allah will destroy every town before the Day of Resurrection. 58

Allah will send disbelievers astray. Then he'll burn them in hell, increasing the flames from time to time. 97-98
18: The Cave

Allah has prepared a Fire for the disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces. 29

Those who are condemned to the Fire know they will have no way to escape. 53

There is an appointed time in which the doomed will find no escape. 58

Allah has destroyed many towns. 59

On a certain day, Allah will present hell, in plain view, to the disbelievers. 100

Allah will welcome the disbelievers into hell. 102

Hell is the reward for disbelievers because they made a jest of Allah's revelations and messengers. 106
19: Mary

Allah will pluck out from every sect those who should burn in hell. 69-70

Allah will record what disbelievers say and then prolong their torment.
77-79

Allah has sent the devils on the disbelievers to confuse them. 83

Allah has destroyed many generations. 98
21: The Prophets

Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 6

Disbelievers will not be able to put out the fire on their faces and backs. They will be stupefied and no one will help them. 39-40

Every person alive at the time of the flood was evil. So Allah drowned them all. 77

The disbelievers will stare in terror at what Allah has in store for them. 97-99 22: The Pilgrimage

When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, and men will a ct like they are drunk. 1-2

The devil will guide some to the punishment of the Flame. 3-4

Those who turn from the way of Allah will face ignominy in this world and burning in the next. 9

Whoever thinks that Allah will not give Muhammad victory should go hang himself. 15

Disbelievers will wear garments of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks, and when they try to escape they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning. 19-22

Allah will provide the disbelievers with a painful doom. 25

How many towns Allah has destroyed! 45

Those who disregard Allah's revelations are the owners of the Fire. 51

Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will have a shameful doom. 57

Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will burn in the Fire. 72 23: The Believers

Allah told Noah not to bother pleading for the people he was about to drown. 27

Those who don't believe in the Hereafter will receive extreme punishment from Allah. 74-77

When fire burns their faces, they will be glum. 104
24: Light

Scourge adulterers and adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 2

Disbelievers will never escape the Fire that will be their home. 57 25: Criterion

Those who deny the coming of the Hour will be chained together and burned with fire. They will pray for their own destruction. 11-13

Allah will force the evil-doers to taste great torment. 19

It will be a hard day for disbelievers and wrong-doers. They will gnaw on their hands and wish they had chosen Islam. 26-27

Those who deny Muhammad's revelations will be destroyed. 36

Allah drowned everyone in the flood of Noah, and has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 37 26: The Poets

Allah destroyed the people in Lot's town with a dreadful rain. 172-3

Many will not believe until they see the painful doom. 201

Those who believe in another god are doomed. 213
27: The Ant

Allah leads those who do not believe in the Hereafter astray by making things work out OK in this life, so that he can torment them forever in the next. They will get the worst punishment and will be the greatest losers. 4-5

"Allah destroyed them and their people, every one." 51

Allah sent a dreadful rain on "those who stayed behind." 58

Whoever does something wrong will be thrown into the Fire. 90 28: The Story

Allah has completely destroyed many communities. 58

Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined? 62-64

Allah caused the earth to swallow Korah. 79-81
29: The Spider

Those who disbelieve in the revelations of Allah have no hope of mercy. For such there is a painful doom. 23

The doom of hell will come upon disbelievers suddenly, when they least expect it. 53-55

The worst thing you can do is tell a lie about Allah. Hell is the home of disbelievers. 68 30: The Romans

Allah seals the heart of disbelievers. (And then he burns them in the Fire.) 59 31: Luqman

Those who mislead others from Allah's way and mock Islam will have a painful doom. 6-7

Allah will give disbelievers a little comfort for a little while, and then he'll torment them forever with a heavy doom. 23-24 32: The Prostration

Allah will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together. 13

Allah: Taste the doom of immortality because of what ye used to do. 14

Those who used to deny the Fire will be tormented in it forever. 20

The worst thing you can do is to deny the revelations of Allah. 22 33: The Clans

Allah cast panic into the hearts of the disbelievers. He killed some, and enslaved others. 25-26

Those who oppose Islam will be slain with a fierce slaughter. 60-61

Allah has cursed the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a flaming fire, wherein they will abide forever. 64-65

The disbelievers will be burned in the Fire with a double torment. 66-68 34: Saba

Those who challenge the revelations of Muhammad will have a painful doom. 5

Those who disbelieve in the Hereafter will be tormented. 8

But some of the jinn Allah burned with flaming Fire. 12

Those who strive against Allah's revelations will be brought to the doom. 38

Those who worshipped the jinn will taste the doom of the Fire. 41

Those who are cast into hell be terrified when they see that they have no escape. Then they will believe. But it will be too late. 51-52 35: The Angels

Those who disbelieve will have an awful doom. 7

Disbelievers will burn forever in the fire of hell. Allah will keep them alive so that he can torture them forever. When they repent and ask for mercy, he will ignore them. 36-7 36: Ya Sin

Allah has blinded the disbelievers so that they cannot see the truth. So it don't bother warning them. They will go to hell anyway. 8-10

Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 31

If Allah feels like it, he will drown everyone. 43

Allah will burn the disbelievers in hell. 63-4 37: Those Who Set the Ranks

Those who refuse to believe in Muhammad's revelations will face a painful doom. 31-38

Those in hell must eat from a tree with the heads of devils, and then drink boiling water. After that they return to hell. 62-68

Allah drowned everyone except Noah and his family in the flood. 82

Allah tells Abraham in a dream to sacrifice his son. (But is the son
Ishmael or Isaac?) 102

Allah killed everyone in Sodom except for Lot and his family. 136

No one is against Allah, except those who burn in hell. 162-3 38: Sad

Allah has destroyed many generations. 3

Those who doubt will soon taste Allah's doom. 8

Those who deny the messengers deserve doom. 14

Those who wander from the way of Allah will have an awful doom. 26

Those who disbelieve will burn in the Fire. 27

David slashed their legs and necks (with Allah's approval). 33

The transgressors will roast in the Fire and be forced to drink boiling liquids followed by ice cold drinks. 55-9

Iblis asks Allah to let him hang around and mislead humans. Allah allows him to do so, and Iblis leads all humans to hell except for the single-minded slaves. Allah agrees, and plans to fill hell with Iblis and his followers. 79-85
39: The Troops

Tell the disbelievers to enjoy themselves now, because later they will be owners of the Fire. 8

The losers will be those who lose themselves and their families on the Day of Resurrection. They will be surrounded by fire. 15-16

No one will be able to help those that Allah torments in the Fire. 19

The worst thing you can do is tell a lie against Allah. The home of disbelievers is hell. 32

Those who lie about Allah will be sent to hell and will have their faces blackened. 60

Those who disbelieve will be driven into hell. 71-72
40: The Believer

Allah sent an awful punishment at the time of Noah. 5

Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 6

When the doom comes, the hearts of the doomed will choke in their throats, and no one will help them. 18

Those who ignore Allah's "clear proofs" will be seized and punished severely. 22

The prodigals will be owners of the Fire. 43

The doomed will be exposed to the Fire morning and evening. 46

Those in hell will beg to be relieved from the Fire's torment for just a
day. But the prayer of a disbeliever is in vain. 49-50

Those who bicker about Allah's revelations are filled with pride. 56

Those who scorn Allah will go to hell. 60

Those who deny the revelations of Allah are perverted. 63

Those who deny the Scripture and Allah's messengers will be dragged
through boiling water and thrust into the Fire. 70-72

Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my
parnters that you used to believe in? 73

Thus does Allah send astray the disbelievers (in his guidance). 74

Those who scorn will go to hell. 76

When they see Allah's doom they will believe in Allah. But their faith
will not save them. The disbelievers will be ruined. 84-85
41: Fusilat

Allah will make life miserable for those who deny his revelations and
then he will torment them forever in the Hereafter. And they will not be
helped. 15-16

The enemies of Allah will be gathered into the Fire where their skin,
ears, and eyes will testify against them. 19-20

Allah will make those who disbelieve taste an awful doom. Their immortal
home will be the Fire, since they denied Allah's revelations. 27-28

Those who disbelieve will taste hard punishment. 50
42: Counsel

While some lounge in the Garden, others will roast in the Flame. 7

Those who argue about Allah will have his wrath upon them. Theirs will
be an awful doom. 16

For wrong-doers there is a painful doom. 21

Allah sometimes kills people for misbehaving. 34

Allah sends some people astray and then punishes them for it by burning them in the Fire. 44-46 43: Ornaments of Gold

When the Egyptians angered Allah, he drowned them all. 55

Those who argue and do wrong will have a painful doom that will come upon them suddenly. 65-66

The guilty are tormented forever in hell. Allah will not relax their punishment. 74-75 44: Smoke

Those in torment will claim to believe and ask Allah for relief. But he will refuse since they will return to their disbelief. 11-16

Those in hell must eat from a tree like molten brass that burns their bellies. Then boiling water will be poured on their heads. 43-48 45: Crouching

Those who hear and reject Allah's revelations are sinful liars. Give them tidings of a painful doom. 7-8

Those who joke about Allah's revelations will go to hell. Theirs will be an awful doom. 9-10

Those who disbelieve in Allah's revelations will have a painful doom of wrath. 11 46: The Wind-Curved Sandals

Disbelievers will be rewarded with the ignominious doom of the Fire. 20

The guilty will face a wind with a painful torment. 25

Allah has destroyed entire towns. 27

Allah will taunt the disbelievers that he torments in the fire, saying: "Taste the doom for that ye disbelieved." 34
47: Muhammad

Smite the necks of the disbelievers whenever you fight against them. Those who die fighting for Allah will be rewarded. 4

Allah will damn the disbelievers and make all their actions fruitless. 8-9

Disbelievers may eat and be happy now, but the Fire will be their final home. 12

Those in the Garden will drink delicious wine, while those in the Fire will drink boiling water that will tear apart their intestines. 15

Allah curses people by making them deaf and blind. 23

Angels will gather them together and smite their faces and backs. 27 48: Victory

Those who think an evil thought concerning Allah will be cursed and sent to hell by him. 6

Allah has prepared a flame for the disbelievers. 13

If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 16-17

But if you're willing to fight for Allah, he will provide you with lots of booty. 19-20

Allah punished those who disbelieved with a painful punishment. 25

Those with Muhammad are ruthless toward disbelievers and merciful toward themselves. 29 50: Oaf

Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 36
51: The Winnowing Winds

Accursed are the conjecturers who ask: When is the Day of Judgment? It is the day they will be tormented by the Fire. 10-14 52: The Mount

Those who deny the existence of hell will be thrust into its Fire. 11-16 54: The Moon

Allah sent a storm of stones on Lot's folk, killing all but Lot's family. 34

The suffering in hell will be more wretched and bitter than anything experienced on earth. 46-48

Allah destroyed many people, but does anyone remember anymore? 51 55: The Beneficent

The guilty deny hell. But after they die they go circling between it and fierce, boiling water. 43-44 56: The Event

But those on his left hand will face scorching wind, scalding water, and black smoke. 42-43

Those who deny Allah and the Hereafter will eat from the Zaqqum tree and drink boiling water. 51-54

Allah will welcome the rejecters and erring with boiling water and a roasting in the hell fire. 92-94 57: Iron

The home of disbelievers is the Fire, a hapless journey's end. 15

Those who disbelieve and deny Allah's revelations are the owners of the fire. 19 58: She That Disputeth

For disbelievers is a painful doom. 4

Don't make friends with Allah's enemies. For those who do so, Allah has prepared a dreadful doom. 14-15

Those who turn others away from the way of Allah will have a shameful doom. They are rightful owners of the Fire. 16-17
59: Exile

Allah cast fear into the hearts of the disbelieving People of the Scripture. Their home in the Hereafter will be the Fire. 2-3

The disbelievers fear the believers more than Allah. 13

The devil and disbelievers will be in the Fire. 16-17
61: The Ranks

Allah loves those who fight for him. 4 64: Mutual Disillusion

Those who disbelieve will have a painful doom. 5

Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 10
66: Banning

The fuel of the Fire is men and stones. 6

Be stern with disbelievers. They are going to Hell anyway. 9
67: The Sovereignty

Allah has prepared for the devils a doom of flame. 5

Disbelievers will go to hell where they will hear its roaring and boiling. 6-7

Who will protect the disbelievers from a painful doom? (Nobody) 28 69: The Reality

Those who do not believe in Allah will be chained up and cast into hell-fire where they will eat filth. 30-35
71: Noah

Those that Allah drowned in Noah's flood were then tortured forever in the Fire. 25

Noah asked Allah to drown all the disbelievers. 26
72: The Jinn

The fires of hell will be fueled with the bodies of idolators and unbelievers. They will experience an ever-greater torment. 15-17

Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will dwell forever in the fire of hell. 23 73: The Enshrouded One

The fires of hell will be fueled with the bodies of idolators and unbelievers. They will experience an ever-greater torment. 15-17

Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will dwell forever in the fire of hell. 23 74: The Cloaked One

The last day will be a day of anguish for disbelievers. 9-10

Those who are stubborn to Allah's revelations will face a fearful doom. 16-17

The fire of hell shrivels humans and spares nothing. 27-29

Allah has appointed angels to tend the Fire and has prepared stumbling blocks for those who disbelieve. He sends some people (whoever he wants) astray. 31 76: "Time" or "Man"

Allah has prepared chains, manacles, and a raging fire for the disbelievers. 4

Allah has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 31
77: The Emissaries

Allah destroyed "the former folk." 16

Woe unto the repudiators on that day! 19, 24, 28, 34, 40, 45, 49 79: "Those Who Drag Forth"

Those who rebel will go to hell. 37-39 82: The Cleaving

The wicked will burn in hell forever. 82 83: The Defrauding

Those who reject Allah's revelations will burn in hell. 10-17

The disbelievers used to laugh at the believers. But the final laugh will be on them. 29-36 84: The Sundering

Some folks will be thrown into a scorching fire. 11-12

Disbelievers will be given a painful doom. 22-24
85: The Mansions of the Stars

Those who persecute Muslims, without repenting, will burn in hell. 10 87: The Most High

Those who are flung into the great Fire will neither live nor die. 12-13 88: The Overwhelming

On that day many will be sad and weary. Scorched by the fire, drinking boiling water, with only bitter thorn-fruit to eat. 2-7

Allah will punish disbelievers with the direst punishment. 23-24 89: The Dawn

Allah poured on them the disaster of His punishment. 13
90: The City

Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will have the Fire placed over them like an awning. 19-20 92: The Night

Those who deny Allah's revelations must endure the flaming fire. 14-16 96: The Clot

Allah will grab those who deny His guidance by the forelock and call the guards of hell. 13-18 98: The Clear Proof

Those who disbelieve will abide in the fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. 6 104: The Traducer

Some rich folks will be flung into the Consuming One, the fire of Allah. 4-6 111: Palm Fibre

Abu Lahab will die and be plunged in flaming Fire. His wife will have on her neck a halter of palm fiber. 1-5

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October 6, 2004
The New York Times, OP-ED COLUMNIST

Beaten Afghan Brides

By - Nicholas D. Kristof


KABUL, Afghanistan

I had an inspiration about where Osama bin Laden might be hiding. But when I visited the women's detention center in Kabul, there was no sign of him.

I did meet Ellaha, a bold 19-year-old prisoner who startled me by greeting me in English. (Like many Afghans, she uses only one name.) She had been attending college as a refugee in Iran when her family pulled her out, alarmed that education might corrupt a young lady's morals.

Her family returned to Afghanistan, and she found work in a U.S. construction company, where her bosses were so impressed that they began arranging a scholarship for her to go to Canada to study.

That horrified her family because the patriarchs had decided that she would marry her cousin. "I didn't agree to marry him," she told me through an interpreter, "because he is not educated and I don't like his job - he is a butcher. Plus, he's three years younger than me."

"When it was almost time for me to go to Canada, and I was asking about flights," she added, "they tied me up and locked me in a room. It was in my uncle's house. My father said, 'O.K., beat her.' I'd never been beaten like that in all my life. My uncle and cousins were all beating me. ... They broke my head, and I was bleeding."

Ms. Ellaha's younger sister, who had been pledged to another cousin, was facing the same treatment. After a week of being tied up, the two sisters agreed to marry their cousins.

"So we went home," Ms. Ellaha added, "and escaped."

The two sisters moved into a cheap guesthouse as they prepared to flee Afghanistan. But their family learned where they were hiding, and the police came to arrest them.

On what charge?

"It's because their lives were in danger," said Rana, the head of the detention center. Ms. Ellaha agrees that her family was pretty close to killing her. The sister is apparently back home, but I was not allowed to interview her.

The police subjected Ms. Ellaha to a mandatory virginity test. Fortunately, her hymen was intact, or she would have faced a prison sentence.

Now she worries that she will be released into her family's custody and then forced to marry her cousin. If that happens, she told me, "I will kill myself."

The entire jail is a kaleidoscope of woe. It's been two years since President Bush declared that in Afghanistan, "Today, women are free." But that's news to the inmates.

Nazilah, 17, had been married to an old man with tuberculosis who beat her - she was his second wife. She ran away and was picked up by the police. Now the authorities are figuring out whether they can return her to her husband's family without getting her killed.

Then there is Sohailla, 18, who says she was kidnapped for three days by the family of a young man who wanted to marry her (the police suspect that she went to his house voluntarily). The police subjected her to a virginity test; after she failed, she got a three-year sentence for fornication.

Inequality is so deeply embedded in this society that there are no easy solutions. In a new opinion poll in Afghanistan, 87 percent of those surveyed said women needed to ask their husbands' permission to vote. There was little difference in the answers of men and women.

The best route to change is new schools, new clinics and more economic opportunity - and those steps are just what the lack of security is blocking in much of southern Afghanistan, the most traditional part of the country. Mr. Bush urgently needs to bolster security in rural areas in the south, so reconstruction projects can go ahead there. The liberation of Afghanistan from the Taliban was crucial, but only a first step.

If this sounds like a gloomy assessment, it was reinforced when I located Ms. Ellaha's father, Said Jamil, a carpenter, and spoke to him on the street in his Kabul neighborhood. He told me that he was arranging for his daughter to be released to him - but he vowed that he would no longer allow her to "be so free."

He did promise me that he would not beat Ms. Ellaha or force her to marry her cousin. I asked him to show mercy toward his daughter, but I have a bad feeling about what lies ahead.

This is how "women are free" in Afghanistan.


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TAZI culture in action in Afghanistan.

When will some of you come to realize the truth? When will the islam-apologists come to realization? When will these countries be freed from the chains of islam? When will the TAZI culture stop in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria.....!
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Misconceptions in Islam


I. What forms the basis of your religion?

The worship or God alone in accordance with God's revelations as found in the Quran. (Quran 17:46, 39:45)


2. Does Islam have a priesthood?

No. God did not ordain a priesthood. You may hear the word Imam, an Imam is a person who leads the congregational prayers. They do not have any special status, they are simply chosen by the people for this purpose. They do not make any special vows such as that of celibacy or poverty. (Quran 17:36; 41:44, 55:2, 75:19)


3. What position then do the Ulemas, Mullahs and Sheiks have in Islam?

They are considered scholars in what is construed to be Islamic law or Shari'ah. Their authority does not come from God, it comes from men. They also study the Quran, which God tells us all to do. (Quran 4:82, 13:4,20)


4. Why do muslim women wear a head cove?

Not all muslim women wear a head cover. The verse that most people believe tells women to cover their heads actually says for them to cover their bosoms. However, in some climates it is very practical to wear a head cover and veil. It started out as a necessity and became a cultural habit. Later, some Muslims thought of it as a religious, not a cultural practice which is wrong. In terms of dress in general, modesty is required for both male and female. (Quran 24:30-31, 33:59)


5. Can Muslim men have several wives?

No, it is not permissible except to give an orphan a home. This permission, however, have been abused by some Muslim men against the teachings of the Quran. God says you cannot be equitable in dealing with more than one wife no matter how hard you try. (Quran 4:3,19,20,129; 33:4)


6. Why is the Islamic punishment so extreme? For example the death by stoning as a punishment for adultery.

This is not an Islamic punishment. According to the Quran, the punishment for adultery is whipping or isolation from the community. However, God says that if the couple repent and reform, they should be pardoned. (Quran 4:16,25; 24:1-4). Many laws in the so called Islamic countries are man-made but they claim it to be Islamic. Quran is the only law that a Muslim (Submitter) should accept for religious matters.


7. What about chopping off the hand of the thief?

The Quran states to cut the hand of the thief. It does not say to cut off. (Quran 5:38, 12:31). This "cut" is to put a mark on the thief's hand. A reminder to not do it again. The cutting off the hand is one of these man-made laws and is not Quranic.


8. How about murder, what is the punishment?

The Quran encourages forgiveness and an equitable compensation from the murderer to the victim's kin. (Quran 2:178-179, 4:92-94, 5:45, 6:151)


9. Is the Quran a copy of the Bible?

No. The Quran is not a copy of the Bible. God says that the Quran came to confirm and supersede all previous scriptures. Since the Quran and the previous scriptures all came from the same source, from God, The similarities between them are understandable.

However, the Quran is unique. Embedded in it is a mathematical code which is easy to understand but, at the same time, impossible to imitate. It is based on the prime number 19 and the system mathematically codes the chapters, the verses, the words, and even the letters. Numerous other elements are also part of the code. The significance of this coding is that it proves beyond a doubt that the Quran is the word of God, not of man. (See, QURAN THE FINAL TESTAMENT, translated from the original by Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D.)


I0. Are men and women equal in Islam?

Of course. God says in the Quran that men and women ate equal. If God says this, then who are we to dispute it? (Quran 3:195, 4:32, 9:71 )



11. Do individuals need an intermediary or intercessor with God?

No, submission to God is a matter between the individual and God. (Quran 2:186,254, 39:44, 50:16)


12. Is belief in the existence of God enough?

No. Satan believes in the existence of God but he is not going to Paradise. Belief in God is necessary but not sufficient. One also needs to accept God's attributes and live according to His laws. It's an effort/reward system. (Quran 2:1-5, 23:1-11).



13. So, The more you strive, the higher the rank you achieve?
Yes. Paradise has ranks. (Quran 7:40-49, 56:3-11)


14.If there is a God, why is there poverty and suffering on this Earth ?

Much of man's suffering would be reduced if we were to follow God's system. For example, if there were equitable distribution of God's provisions, there would be less poverty, hardship and disease. Poverty and suffering would not be completely eliminated, because many people, still, would not follow God's law, otherwise we'd be in Paradise. (Quran 10:57-58)

God also explains that our life on this Earth is a test. We are tested through adversity and blessings. God says: "Do the people think that they will be left to say we believe without being tested? "(Quran 2:155,214, 29:2).

Tested by, Children (7:190), Scholars (9:31), Property (18:42), Ego (25:43), Saints (I6:20-21, 35:14, 46:5-6).


15. So anything bad that happens to you, is part of a test?

No, hardship can be as a result of a test or as a consequence of something you've done. (Quran 42:30). Sometimes, what we think of as adversity, is really a blessing when viewed through hindsight. (Quran 18:71,74,79.80)



16. Does God control everything?

Of course, God is in full control. However, we have the freedom to choose to follow his guidance. And we are accountable for our actions. (Quran 2:165, 51:58)


17. Do you need to know Arabic to understand the Quran?

No. "Whether it is Arabic or non-Arabic, say, for those who believe it is a guide and a healing (regardless of their language)." (Quran 41:44)

The Quran has been translated into many languages and for those who sincerely seek to understand it, God says that He will teach It to them no matter what language it is in. (Quran 55:1-2)


18. Why do Muslims follow Muhammad?

Muslims do not follow Muhammad. They follow the word of God that was revealed to prophet Muhammad. (Quran 3:79-80)


19. Could Muhammad read and write?

Some people believe that he couldn't. But careful study of the Quran indicates that he could. (Quran 25:5, 53:5, 96:1-5)


20. Is Islam the religion of the Arabs?

No. Definitely not. People all over the world practice Islam. The Quran came to all the people. (Quran 3:3-4, 5:48, 12:111, 21:106-108)


21. Does Islam condone terrorism?

No. anyone who practices Islam and follows the Quran would not indulge in or advocate terrorism. (Quran 2:190-191, 6:151)


22. What part does Sunnah and Hadith play in Islam?

The sunnah are the practices and the hadith are sayings attributed to the Prophet Muhammad. Most Muslims consider the Sunnah and Hadith a source of religious guidance and laws but it is very interesting that the Quran commands the Muslims to follow no other source than the Quran for their religion. The books of Hadiths and Sunnah are full of corruption and contradictions to the teachings of the Quran. They have many insults to the religion that they allegedly serve. Many of these corruptions were introduced into these books by the enemies of Islam. Quran says:

"Some of them twist their tongues to imitate the scripture, that you may think it is from the scripture, when it is not from the scripture. They then claim that it is from GOD, when it is not from GOD. They utter lies and attribute them to GOD, knowingly." (Quran 3:78)

"Never would a human being whom GOD has blessed with the scripture and prophethood say to the people, ' Be worshipers of me besides GOD. ' Instead, they would say, ' Be devoted to your Lord alone, in accordance with the scripture you received, and learned. ' (Quran 3:79)

"God has revealed herein the best Hadith. A book that is consistent and points out both ways ..." (Quran 7:185, 39:23)

"We have cited for The people every kind of example in this Quran that they may take heed. (Quran 39:27-29)

"These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadlith other than God and His revelations do they believe? (Quran 45:6)
Also refer to, (Quran 6:19,38,114-115,155, 7:3,52, !1:1, 12:11 I)


23. Is Muhammad the last prophet?

Yes, according To the Quran, Muhammad is the seal of the prophets. But the Quran says that a messenger is sent to every community. (Quran. 7:3S, lO:47, 33:40)

"To each community a messenger is sent. Once their messenger comes, they are judged equitably." (Quran 3:81, 10:47, 13:7, 16:36)

God also teaches us in the Quran that after all the prophets have come a consolidating messenger will come, the messenger of the covenant. See 3:81


24. What is the Declaration of Faith or Shahada as it is called?

The central theme of the Quran is the oneness of Cod and the shahada is a statement that acknowledges that there is no God but the one God. This statement or declaration can be found in various places in the Quran. For example the Quran says that "God bears witness that there is no God except He and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge." (Quran 3:18)

You shall know that there is no god besides God . (Quran 47:I 9)


25. Which sect should you belong to .. Sunni or a Shi'ite?

Neither. Simply a Muslim. (Quran 6:159, 42:13)

"Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with you. Their judgment rests with God. (Quran 6:159, 30:32)

"He decreed for you the same religion he decreed for Noah and what we revealed herein, and what we decreed for Abraham, Moses and Jesus. "You shall uphold this one religion and do not divide it." (Quran 42:13)






Women in Islam


The western image of Muslim women is one of suppression .... (e.g. they don't drive cars, they must stay in the house, etc.) The Quran refers to men and women as being equal in the sight of GOD. (Quran 2:228, 3:195, 4:32, 33:35)


I. In a lot of cases, we see Muslim women covered from head to toe. In some Muslim countries, women are not allowed out without the "veil'. What does the Quran say about these requirements ?

Modest dress is the requirement in the Quran. There are specific instructions for women to cover the bosom and for both men and women to cover the private parts. (Quran 24:30-31, 33:59). The Quran does not command to cover the head or face. These are cultural dress codes, not religious requirements.


2. So what about the head cover, is it mentioned in the Quran?

The instruction in the Quran is to pull a cover over The bosom. It doesn't say anything about covering the head. The scholars tried to interpret this cover to mean a head cover when it is not. It is just any cover.


3. Are men and women required to be segregated?

No, men and women am not required To be segregated. Only The prophet's wives were told not to mix excessively. (Quran 33:32-33)


4. Does the woman have the right to choose her own spouse?

Yes. The consent of both parties is required. (Quran 33:35)


5. In some cultures there is a system of dowry. Does one exist in Islam?

Yes. The dowry is to be paid to the bride. (Quran 2:236, 4-4)


6. What does the Quran say about polygamy?

Quran discourages polygamy but allows it under strict conditions. Polygamy was a common practice before the revelation of the Quran, but the Quran was the first scripture to limit or restrict it. For example, Abraham had two wives and Solomon had many wives. The Quran does allow additional marriages to the mothers of orphans if it is in the best interest of the orphans. The consideration here is for the orphans, not the man's desire to have another wile, (Quran 4:3). The Quran also says that you should be content with only one wife or what you already have (for those who are already married to more than one). This way you are more likely to avoid inequity. However, God says that one can never be equitable in dealing with more than one wife, no matter how hard one tries. Since being equitable is such an important commandment in the Quran, monogamy is greatly encouraged. However, if a man wants to take on this challenge, that is between him and his Creator, (Quran 4:129)


7. Is divorce allowed in Islam (Submission)?

Yes, God in His wisdom has allowed for the ending of a marriage (in extenuating circumstances). But divorce is supposed to be a last resort when all attempts at reconciliation have failed. Like polygamy, divorce is discouraged. (Quran 4:35,128)


8. Who can initiate The divorce, the man or the woman?

Either. If they cannot be reconciled as recommended, they are encouraged to part amicably and the husband is required to give her alimony. Children remain the financial obligation of the father. (Quran 2:228,233,24I, 65:1-7).


9. Until recently in the west, women and children were considered the property or chattel of the men. What is the status of women in Islam?

A woman is an individual in her own right, independent of her husband, father, etc. She is not required to take on her husband's name when marrying and she has the right to her own property. She has the same political and contractual rights as any other individual. In short, she has the same rights and freedom as a the man.


I0. How are Muslim women supposed To be treated within a marriage ?

Marriage is supposed to be a harmonious relationship where the spouses are a comfort and joy to each other. Anything that disturbs the harmony has to be addressed. The suggested mechanism in dealing with conflict or dispute is arbitration. (Quran 4:32,34-35). All believers are required to treat each other in the best possible manner and this of course applies to the married couple too. (Quran 9:7 I). Men are designated as the bread earners of the family and women are the bearers of the children.

Islam is one of the most advanced and most sophisticated religions of our time. It allows individual development as well as harmony to prevail in family life.


11 Are women encouraged to get an education according to Quran ?

Quran advocates acquiring both religious and other knowledge for all individuals. (Quran 4:82, 17:36, 73:4,20)


12. How about traveling or freedom of mobility [or women?

God recommends that we travel His Earth. (Quran 27:69, 29:20, 40:82)

The Quran does not designate that a woman must be accompanied by anyone when travelling nor does it restrict anyone's freedom in any way.


13. Is there such thing as a primary obligation of women ?

Yes, to worship none other than God. Her relationship with God supersedes all others. (Quran 4:48, 7:3,29)


14. Why do women walk behind men in Muslim countries?

This is only part of the culture and traditions. Not Islam (Submission).


15 The practice of female circumcision is quite common in some Islamic countries. Is this a correct practice?

No. Again, this is a cultural practice that has nothing to do with Islam (Submission). The circumcision of women is aggression and a violation of a woman's body. Freedom is one of the greatest gifts given to all human beings by the Almighty, therefore violation of such a right indeed sacrilege. Again, this is culture and tradition only.
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Islam-apologists please do reveal yourselves, follow the path of Ayatollah Ebadi who today is the biggest Islam-apologist in Iran....

I long for the day Iran will be freed from the chains of the filthy TAZI culture and its "holy" book the TAZINAMEH.

The people of Iran need to come to realization and finish this FILTH off.

ISLAM has to be SEPERATED once and for all from our culture! We cannot AFFORD to have a TAZI-MINDSET in the future! Do you want future generations to go through what has been going on for 25 years in Iran or something even worse!!!



P.S. 9kar, posting your islam-apoligistic article above TWICE (here and as a seperate thread) shows how desperate you are in trying to keep Iranians from ESCAPING the misery and gloom that ISLAM is all about. Shame on you for ADVOCATING the TAZI culture and TAZINAMEH after 1400 years of MISERY, DEATH, DESTRUCTION... SHARM!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually it only shows how ignorant and not aware u are about the truth and instead try to ASSUME everything
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually i advocate all iranians to step away from the false and cruel relgion of shia and see the truth

and the reason i put the messege here and in a sepatare topic is for u or ppl like u who may be blind to the light and need more of them flashing for u
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9karevatan wrote:
actually i advocate all iranians to step away from the false and cruel relgion of shia and see the truth

and the reason i put the messege here and in a sepatare topic is for u or ppl like u who may be blind to the light and need more of them flashing for u



lol you are really something else 9kar.....
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes u are right

i AM something else

i am a submitter and follow the great religoin of submission unlike most ppl do....especially in iran
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9karevatan wrote:
yes u are right

i AM something else

i am a submitter and follow the great religoin of submission unlike most ppl do....especially in iran



lol if you're into "submission" then that's your personal issue, I hope you like it.....
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i really enjoy submitting to the will of God

I LOVE BEING A SUBMITTER!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9karevatan wrote:
i really enjoy submitting to the will of God

I LOVE BEING A SUBMITTER!!!





ehmmm whatever makes you happy dude just don't start putting HEZBOLLAHI statements on here that it's God's wish for you to.....or.....or.....;keep it for yourself.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please Liberator, don't you know that:

14+8=22
24+16=40
18+9=27
and 17+7=24

Plus 95 is a multiple of 19! Allah u akbar. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i never put any hezbollahi statements here

however the name HEZBOLLAH itself means "party of God"

which i am jealous of that a terrorist group having that name
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if it's any consolation, I consider you to be a hezbollahi too. Anyone who defends the barbarities of Islam is a hezbollahi.
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