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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Iranian President: Israel Should be 'Wiped Off the Map' Reply with quote

Iranian President: Israel Should be 'Wiped Off the Map'

October 26, 2005
AFP
Correspondents in Tehran



TEHRAN, Iran -- Iran's hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday openly called for Israel to be "wiped off the map" and lashed out at Muslim nations who recognise the Jewish state.

"The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the president told a conference in Tehran entitled: 'The World without Zionism'.

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he thundered in a fiery speech on what he called an "historic war between the oppressor and the world of Islam".

"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

His comments were the first time in years that such a high-ranking Iranian official has called for Israel's eradication, even though such slogans are still regularly used at regime rallies.

Addressing some 4,000 students gathered in an interior ministry conference hall, Ahmadinejad also called for Palestinian unity, resistance and "the annihilation of the Zionist regime".

His mere appearance at the conference drew chants of "Death to Israel", but Ahmadinejad quickly told students . all of whom wore black and were sporting green headbands . to shout the slogan louder.

"The Islamic umma (community) will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland," said the president, an austere veteran of Iran's hardline Revolutionary Guards who took office in August after scoring a landslide win in a June presidential election.

"Anyone who signs a treaty which recognises the entity of Israel means he has signed the surrender of the Muslim world," Ahmadinejad said, telling Muslim leaders who recognise Israel that they "face the wrath of their own people."

"We should not settle for a piece of land," he said of Israel's pullout from the Gaza Strip.

His tone represents a dramatic change from that of former president Mohammad Khatami, whose favoured topic was "dialogue among civilisations" and who led an effort to improve Iran's relations with the West.

Ahmadinejad instead spoke of an "historic war" between Islam and the West.

"It dates backs hundreds of years. Sometimes Islam has advanced. Sometimes nobody was winning. Unfortunately over the past 300 years, the world of Islam has been in retreat," he lamented.

"One hundred years ago the last trench of Islam fell, when the oppressors went towards the creation the Zionist regime. They are using it as a fort to spread its aims in the heart of the Islamic world."

The term "oppressor" is used by the clerical regime to refer to the United States, and in the plural form generally also includes Britain and Israel.

The one-day conference, organised by an Islamic students' association, also included a message from Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the head of the Lebanese Shiite militant group Hezbollah.

"We should gather all means to annihilate the regime which occupies Qods (Jerusalem)," Nasrallah said in his message, read out by Hezbollah's representative in Tehran.

Also featured was a six-man choir dressed in dark grey who gave some harmonic renditions of Koranic verses. Prizes were also on offer for the best Zionist caricature and in a letter-writing competition also themed: "The world without Zionism".

The Tehran representative of the Palestinian militant group Hamas was also present, while the ambassadors of Syria and the Palestinian Authority put in a showing.

"We have a multitude of activities," event spokesman Saed Ramazan Ali told AFP. "We want to acquaint Iranian students with the evil aims of the Zionist regime."
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Western nations blast Iran President’s comments Wed. 26 Oct 2005



Iran Focus and agencies

London, Oct. 26 – A string of United States and European officials criticised on Wednesday the threatening comments by Iran’s hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad against the state of Israel.

Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be “wiped off the face of the earth”. He rejected the two-state solution to the Middle East crisis as a defeat for the Islamic world, adding that the roadmap would be short-lived. “If we put it behind us successfully, god willing, it will pave the way for the destruction and the downfall of the Zionist regime”.

The hard-line President’s comments were strongly condemned by France, Germany, and the United States.

"If these remarks were indeed made, we condemn them in the strongest terms", said French Foreign Ministry spokesman Jean-Baptiste Mattei.

Germany called the comments "completely unacceptable".

"If these comments were in fact made, they are completely unacceptable and should be condemned in the strongest terms", Foreign Ministry spokesman Walter Lindner said.

Across the Atlantic, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said that the Iranian President's comments "just reconfirms what we have been saying about the regime in Iran. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear operations".

The United States' position was echoed by Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom, who said Tehran had consistently shown its desire to wipe out Israel. "This is not the first time that this regime has wished for the destruction of the state of Israel ... This kind of regime is very, very extreme and it would be a nightmare for all the international community if they had a nuclear bomb".

"We believe that the time has come to move the Iranian file to the [United Nations] Security Council and the sooner the better".
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBCNEWS:


Iran leader's words 'sicken' UK

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be 'wiped off the map'
The UK Foreign Office is to summon a senior Iranian diplomat to protest against his president's comments about destroying Israel.
Hardliner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for the Jewish state to be "wiped off the map".

The Foreign Office will call in Iran's London chargé d'affaires on Thursday. It said the comments were "deeply disturbing and sickening".

The remarks have heightened concerns over Iran's nuclear intentions.

'Horrible reality'

At least five people were killed in what police say was a suicide bomb attack in northern Israel on Wednesday.

An FO spokesman said this showed "the horrible reality of the violence he [Mahmoud Ahmadinejad] is praising".

Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom has said Iran is regarded as "a clear and present danger".

He said it was clear that Iran was trying to develop a programme to make nuclear weapons.

Iran denies this, but insists it has the right to pursue a civilian nuclear programme for peaceful purposes.

At least five people died and up to were 30 wounded in the bomb attack near a market place in Hadera, northern Israel.

The Palestinian Islamic Jihad group said it carried out the attack in revenge for Israel's killing of its senior leader, Luay Saadi, on Monday.
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Iranian President’s Call for Destruction of Israel Raises U.S., Canadian Nuclear Concerns





U.S. and Canadian officials expressed “concern” over Iran’s suspected nuclear weapons program yesterday following Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s call for the destruction of Israel, CNN reported (see GSN, Oct. 27).

Ahmadinejad yesterday — quoting Ayatollah Khomeini — told protesting students in Tehran that Israel “must be wiped out from the map of the world.”

U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the remark “underscores our concern and the international community's concerns about Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons.”

“We cannot tolerate comments of such hatred, such anti-Semitism, such intolerance. These comments are all the more troubling given that we know of Iran's nuclear ambitions,” said Canadian Foreign Minister Pierre Pettigrew (CNN, Oct. 27).

Ahmadinejad’s statement prompted Israel to call for Iran’s removal from the United Nations, Agence France-Presse reported.

“It's the first time since the creation of the U.N. in 1945 that one of its members has openly called for the destruction of another,” said Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres. “Iran's intentions are dangerous because this country wants to develop a nuclear weapon and long-range missiles.”

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon echoed Peres’ statements.

“We believe this country does not have a place in the U.N. because it has long threatened the existence of the state of Israel with its nuclear program and missiles,” he said.

“Iran is our most dangerous enemy” and “threatens the free world,” he added (Agence France-Presse I/Yahoo!News, Oct. 27).

In Jerusalem, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov yesterday rejected Israeli calls for quick action against Iran, saying the nuclear matter is “too serious to be guided by politics.”

“We rely on the professional assessment of the International Atomic Energy Agency,” he said. “All our assessments … do not substantiate the allegations that we have a clear and present danger coming from Iran” (Haaretz/Associated Press, Oct. 26).

Meanwhile, Iranian Vice President Parviz Davudi yesterday cautioned against interference in its nuclear negotiations, Agence France-Presse reported.

“Iran recognizes the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) and its rules — we will see any irresponsible interference as a serious threat and we demand a nondiscriminatory approach,” he said.

“Iran announces it is ready for negotiations on its nuclear program with all members of the IAEA and other countries without preconditions,” Davudi added (Agence France-Presse II/IranMania.com, Oct. 26).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1824766,00.html

(...) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech, delivered on Wednesday at a conference entitled "The World without Zionism", came just hours before a suicide bombing in Israel (...)

(...) The spokesperson of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Seyed Massoud Jazihiri, backed up Ahmadinejad by describing Israel as a "cancerous tumour".

He said the West "was right to be afraid, because two decades ago when the Imam (Khomeini) called for Israel to be wiped off the map they thought it was a slogan, but as time passes we are seeing signs of unity in the Islamic world." (...)




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Thursday, October 27, 2005

Blair says Iran Comments about Israel 'Completely Unacceptable'

October 27, 2005
AFX News
AFX UK Focus



HAMPTON COURT, England -- Remarks by Iran's leadership that Israel should be "wiped off the map", were "completely and totally unacceptable", said UK Prime Minister Tony Blair. Speaking at the end of an informal summit of EU leaders here, Blair said he would be discussing the ramifications of the remarks with Britain's allies over the next few days.

He warned that the time may be drawing nearer when Iran will have to be confronted over its approach to nuclear weapons and terrorism.

"There has been a long time in which I have been answering questions on Iran with everyone saying to me: 'Tell us you are not going to do anything about Iran'," he said.

"If they carry on like this, the question people are going to be asking us is: 'When are you going to do something about this?'"

"You imagine a state like that, with an attitude like that, having a nuclear weapon."

Blair said the comment, by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, "indicates and underlines how much some of those places need reform themselves".

Blair warned Iran will be seen by the rest of the world as a "real threat" if it persists with its hard line on Israel and its suspected pursuit of nuclear weapons.

"I have never come across a situation (where) the president of a country (says) they want to wipe out -- not that they've got a problem with, or issue with -- but want to wipe out another country," he said.

"This is unacceptable, and their attitude towards Israel, their attitude towards terrorism, their attitude on the nuclear weapons issue isn't acceptable."

"If they continue down this path, then people are going to believe that they are a real threat to our world's security and stability."

"How are we going to build a more secure world with that type of attitude? It's a disgrace."
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Thursday, October 27, 2005 Posted: 1833 GMT (0233 HKT)


(CNN) -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has expressed "dismay" over the Iranian president's comments urging the destruction of Israel.

Annan, in a statement issued Thursday, reminded "all member states that Israel is a long-standing member of the United Nations with the same rights and obligations as every other member."

It added that "under the United Nations Charter, all members have undertaken to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday lambasted Israel and Zionism and quoted the late Ayatollah Khomeini calling for Israel to be "wiped out from the map."

In response, Israel's prime minister has suggested that Tehran should be expelled from the United Nations.

Ariel Sharon, in remarks issued Thursday by the Israeli government press office, said he believes any country that calls for the destruction of another cannot be a member of the United Nations.

The U.N. statement didn't address that contention.

But it said Annan "had already decided to visit Iran during the next few weeks, to discuss other issues.

"He now intends to place the Middle East peace process, and the right of all states in the area to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force, at the top of his agenda for that visit."

Meanwhile, British Prime Minister Tony Blair on Thursday called comments by Iran's president "completely and totally unacceptable."

"I felt a real sense of revulsion at those remarks," said Blair, who spoke at a press briefing after a European Union summit near London.

"There has been a long time in which I've been answering questions on Iran with everyone saying to me 'tell us you're not going to do anything about Iran,'" he said.

"If they carry on like this, the question people are going to be asking us is, 'When are you going to do something about this,' because you imagine a state like that with an attitude like that having a nuclear weapon."

Ahmadinejad comments were made during a meeting with protesting students at Iran's Interior Ministry.

He quoted a remark from Ayatollah Khomeini, founder of Iran's Islamic revolution, that Israel "must be wiped out from the map of the world."

The president then said: "And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," according to a quote published by Iran's state news outlet, the Islamic Republic News Agency.

The remarks by Ahmadinejad coincided with a month-long protest against Israel called "World Without Zionism" and with the approach of Jerusalem Day.

In Washington, U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Ahmadinejad's views "underscores our concern and the international community's concerns about Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons."

Ottawa also issued a strong rebuke, with Canadian Foreign Minister Pierre Pettigrew saying: "We cannot tolerate comments of such hatred, such anti-Semitism, such intolerance. These comments are all the more troubling given that we know of Iran's nuclear ambitions."

'Completely unacceptable'
Across Europe, the reaction was equally strong.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said Thursday he condemned the Iranian statement "absolutely."

"It is a completely unacceptable statement, of course. We should respect borders and respect the integrity of Israel, and we want Israel to live in peace with its neighbors," he told BBC radio.

Asked whether he believed that Iran should be expelled from the U.N., Barroso said: "I condemn absolutely that statement, but I will not make any concrete proposal now."

In Paris, Ahmadinejad's comments prompted the French foreign minister to summon the Iranian ambassador for an explanation. France, along with Germany and Britain, has been involved in negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program.

French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy said he learned about Ahmadinejad's comments from news reports.

"If these comments are correct, they are unacceptable. I greatly condemn them and have asked for the Iranian ambassador in Paris to be summoned to the Foreign Ministry to demand explanations," Douste-Blazy said.

"For France, the right for Israel to exist should not be contested. This state was created by a decision of the U.N. General Assembly. International law applies to all. The question of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict cannot be used as a pretext to put into question the fundamental right for Israel to exist."

Foreign ministries in Berlin, Madrid and Rome also made their opposition to Ahmadinejad's remarks known to Iran's representatives in their countries, AP reported.

Spain summoned the Iranian ambassador in Madrid to protest the comments, while the German Foreign Ministry summoned a representative of the Iranian Embassy to underline Berlin's opposition to the remarks.

Italy said the remarks confirmed concerns over Tehran's nuclear program, and that the Foreign Ministry had expressed "discomfort and concern to the Iranian ambassador in Rome."

"The contents and tone of such unacceptable statements confirm worries over the political positions pursued by the new Iranian leadership, especially concerning the nuclear dossier," a statement from Rome said.

Journalist Shirzad Bozorghmehr contributed to this report

Copyright 2005 CNN.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daily Press Briefing
Sean McCormack, Spokesman
Washington, DC
October 27, 2005


(excerpt)

QUESTION:

The statement by the Iranian leader, I wondered, of course I can image the U.S.
reaction to it, but has the U.S. used its contacts with Iran to follow up in
any way?

MR. MCCORMACK: Well, we have spoken out quite clearly in public from this
podium as well as from the White House, Barry, regarding our thoughts on the
President's statement, as I said yesterday. I think when you take President
Ahmadi-Nejad's speech at the UN in combination with his speech yesterday, you
start to collect some data points here about really what the true face of this
regime is, its underlying thinking and its underlying attitudes. And I think
what all of this does is underscores the validity of our, and the world's,
serious concern about Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons, as well as its
continuing support for terrorism and oppression of its own people.

QUESTION: Did this trigger anything on the U.S. side beyond your statements?

MR. MCCORMACK: I will check, Barry. I don't know if we have passed any formal
diplomatic messages, but we have spoken out quite clearly on the matter in
public.

QUESTION: Do you sense that the rest of the world is as straightforward in
opposing what was said as the U.S. Government is? And if it isn't, is the U.S.
trying to rally allies, at least, to look at it the way you look at it?

MR. MCCORMACK: I think that you can look at the public comments for yourself. I
saw that Foreign Minister Lavrov had some very strong comments in reaction.

QUESTION: Yes.

MR. MCCORMACK: I would expect that there are others, although I don't have a
catalog of them. We have also made it very clear that our posts around the
world should make very clear where we stand on this kind of rhetoric coming out
of Iran and from the head of state.

QUESTION: Should Iran be kicked out of the United Nations for this comment?

MR. MCCORMACK: Again, I've seen the news reports suggesting this. Again, Iran
is a member of the United Nations. What I think we would encourage instead is
Iran to start behaving in a responsible manner as a member of the international
community, cease its pursuit of nuclear weapons under the cover of a civilian
nuclear program, end its support for terror and stop oppressing its own people.

QUESTION: So if you're saying the pursuit of nuclear weapon under the guise of
a civilian program, is that also -- are you also throwing in the Bushehr
project?

MR. MCCORMACK: As we have talked about it before, our concern is with Iran's
having the know-how, the technology and the capability to enrich or reprocess
on its territory. We have said that that is an important step that would allow,
we believe, it to develop a nuclear weapon, which is a shared goal -- which all
share the goal of preventing: Russia, the United States, the EU-3.

We have pointed to the Bushehr deal as a deal that addresses the central
concern of Iran not having the nuclear fuel cycle on its own territory. It has
a fuel take-back provision. We think that that demonstrates clearly Russia's
discomfort with the idea of Iran having the nuclear fuel cycle on its
territory.

QUESTION: But given that agreement with Russia, this is not a backing off of
your support for Bushehr -- with the proviso that the Russians take back their
--

MR. MCCORMACK: Again, the deal as it is structured, I think, was -- it evolved
to -- at the current point where you do have the fuel take-back provision, as a
result of Russia's concerns about Iran's behavior and Iran's intention to seek
nuclear weapons, as well as discussions over the years with the international
community about their concerns regarding the Bushehr deal. And as a result,
they have structured it in such a way to address the concerns -- their own
concerns as well as the concerns of the international community.

Barry.

QUESTION: Why you were working over in that other building --

MR. MCCORMACK: Anything else on -- it's Iran.

QUESTION: Yes. While you were working in the other building, there was a
persistent theory in the State Department by many people, I think the Deputy
Secretary of State, in fact, said let's start talking to them and that there
are really two Irans -- that there's a more liberal Iran, there's a democratic
inclined segment of the population. And of course, there was hope that it would
take hold and have influence. Can we throw that theory in the trashcan by now
or do you guys still think that there's another -- there is another force in
Tehran that you hope will come to the fore that can be cultivated, that there's
hope for Iran taking a different world view?

MR. MCCORMACK: Well, what we have consistently stated over the years is that
the United States stands with the Iranian people and their aspirations for a
more free democratic state. Those aspirations have not been realized, as we
have seen the unelected few stand in the way of those aspirations. We recently
have offered -- we have accepted requests for proposals regarding promotion of
democracy programs. It is our Bureau of Democracy, Rights and Labor has put out
requests for proposals that would help fund programs promoting democracy in
Iran. We think that that is an important step. I would expect that at some
point this fall that we actually are able to award those grants on the amount
-- in the order of about $3 million or so.

So our support for the Iranian people in their aspirations for democracy are
steadfast. We believe that it is the unelected few which we now see represented
by the current government, President Ahmadi-Nejad, that stand in the way of
those aspirations. You are starting to see reports -- news reports coming out
of Iran of steps -- steps to sort of increase the oppression within Iran, you
know, mobile courts going throughout the country that are, you know, quite
disturbing. So this is a regime, again, that is out of step with the general
trends in the region towards greater freedom, greater democracy and more
openness.

QUESTION: You said that Russia expressed its concern, but actually the Russian
Foreign Minister said this doesn't change anything in Moscow position on the
nuclear program. He says the position is the same, so I don't see where is the
concern.

MR. MCCORMACK: I think again when the Iranian President speaks in terms of
wiping another state off the map, that is a source of concern for the
international community. I think Foreign Minister Lavrov stated his concern and
the Russian Government's concern about this issue.

QUESTION: Yeah, but --

MR. MCCORMACK: With regard to the nuclear issue, this is -- that is a matter
for continuing discussion among the members of the Board of Governors. I think
that right now there is -- the IAEA is going to produce a report that goes to
the Security Council regarding Iran's cooperation with the IAEA. We will see
what is contained in that report. What is contained in that report depends upon
Iran's actions. And I think we are in discussions with the EU-3, as well as
Russia and the other members of the Board of Governors, about Iran's behavior,
what further steps that the IAEA might be required if Iran continues to fail to
cooperate with the IAEA. It is a matter for continuing discussion among all the
members of the Board of Governors.

QUESTION: But he says -- he said these declarations ring forth the arguments of
people who don't want Iran to get nuclear civilian program, but it doesn't
change Russia's position. So actually, they don't express any more concern
today than yesterday.

MR. MCCORMACK: Of course, Foreign Minister Lavrov is free to speak on behalf of
his government, obviously. I would only add that, you know, the issue of Iran's
nuclear program is a matter of continuing discussion within the Board of
Governors. And in fact, what conclusions the IAEA comes to with this next
report, it's going to be up to Iran and how it is that they cooperate or do not
cooperate.

QUESTION: As for Iran's nuclear program is concerned, Iranians are saying that
they will continue to develop no matter what, under any circumstances, as far
as their nuclear program is concerned. Now, recently India working with the
European Union in Vienna, in Austria at the IAEA meeting against Iran. Visiting
Indian officials here are saying that India had never given its nuclear
technology to anywhere to any country. And on the one hand, A.Q. Khan has been
given nuclear technology to many countries, including Iran. My question is that
have anybody spoke to A.Q. Khan what and how much he has given to Iran?

MR. MCCORMACK: You know, our concerns about the A.Q. Khan network are well
known. We are working very closely with the Pakistani Government to dig into
all of the activities of the A.Q. Khan network. This is, as many of you have
reported, a widespread network that was providing nuclear weapons technology
and know-how to a variety of different states. And we have stated our concerns
about what A.Q. Khan may have provided to a variety of different states. I
think the IAEA is looking into this matter, exactly what A.Q. Khan might have
provided to Iran. I think is an open -- that's still an open question for IAEA
investigators. And we are looking to Iran to provide -- to come clean on these
issues and provide the information to IAEA investigators so all of these
questions can be cleared up.

QUESTION: But Sean, the U.S. never had any direct access to A.Q. Khan or
neither the IAEA, so we are still relying on what A.Q. Khan is telling the
Pakistani authorities and what Pakistani authorities are telling the U.S. and
IAEA.

MR. MCCORMACK: We are working closely with Pakistan on these questions and I
understand that IAEA authorities are working closely with the Pakistani
Government. We certainly encourage their continuing cooperation as a matter --
as this is a matter of intense international interest, and so we look forward
to that continuing cooperation.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lets see if they mean business this time or its business as usual, some tough talk for show while ki$$ing the Mullah$ OILY behind$
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Dear Oppenheimer,

Thank you for yourNews posts, when you post News or Article would you please put the source URL.
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Protest Demanding Journalists, CNN, BBC, AP …G8 officials, and UN officials for Referencing to Iran, Terrorist President-Select … With Correct Term

WE, the undersigned, as members of the civilized freedom-loving people of the world, call urgently to refer to Iran and Iranian people correctly in their statements, News reports, and recognize the following:

- Iranian people should be considered as a hostage to Islamist Clerical Regime without any control over the key decisions.
- “Iran Says …” in News report must change to “Islamist Clerical Regime Says ….”
- “President-elect Ahmadinejad” in News report must change to “President-select Ahmadinejad” or “President-thug Ahmadinejad”
- “Iran’s Foreign Minister …” in News report must be changed to “Islamist Foreign Minister of Iran ….”
- Iranian people are considering the Islamist regime as illegitimate
- Iranian people are declaring any contracts with the Islamist regime as illegitimate and it is subject to review after Iran becomes FREE.
- Iranian people are declaring the Islamist Regime as Terror/Torture Masters and ask FREE world not to negotiate with Terrorists and Hostage Takers.
- Iranian people are declaring the Islamist Clerical Regime as Virous of Iranian Society



Facts About Iran:

It is the irony of history that in the land of Cyrus The Great, the birthplace of the first charter of the “Rights of Nations” and the “Declaration of Human Rights” over 2500 years ago; there is today no respect for human and civil rights by the Islamic regime. Unfortunately, present day Iran is ruled by a small group of Islamic Mafia Clerics, group of Pasdaran and Basij thugs who are the embodiment of evil and have no respect for Human Rights in the land of Cyrus The Great which is the birthplace of Darius The Great, Babak, Razi (Rhazes), Avicenna (Ibn Sina), Ferdowsi, Khayyam, Hafaz, Saadi and Rumi.

Over the past 26 years the Islamic regime's Mullahs, Agents, courts, judges and vigilantes have all committed acts of: murder, stoning, torture, assault, theft, destruction of property, arson, perjury, falsification of testimonials and material evidence, illegal surveillance, kidnapping, rape, blackmail, fraud, obstruction of justice, conspiracy to commit all of the above crimes, cover-ups and every other form of butchery and depredation.

The Iranian people have the best proven record of fighting against Islamic Fanatics, in the past 26 years and despite the heavy losses they have incurred (120,000 + executions, imprisonment, rape and torture!), Iranians continue to fight against and resist the Islamists even as some of G8 governments are directly and indirectly supporting the Islamist regime of Iran for their blind short term financial interests. At least over 90% of Iranian people are against the Isalmist Terror Masters , the Iranian people can be considered as the best and most experienced fighting force against Islamists . We are asking our Freedom-Loving Compatriots to force their politicians to stop supporting the Islamist Clerical Regime Now.

Time is running out the Iranian people need the help and full support from the people of the free world to change this regime with no / minimum bloodshed, otherwise we shall soon confront the world's biggest Islamist tyranny, and the Terror/Torture Masters, armed with nuclear weapons. The prison door cannot be opened from inside by 70 millions who are hostage to the regime.


In past 26 years Iranian people have been demanding civil and political freedoms, separation of religion and government, equality and justice (especially for the Iranian women), the immediate liberation of all political prisoners and Free Referendum after regime change by any available means.
Long before September 11th tragedy Iranian people and writers started their fight against Islamists terror by any available means and they should be recognized as a leader of fight against Terror.
The Iranian people have clearly rejected the Islamist regime again by overwhelmingly boycotting the Mullah's Election/Selection SHOW. The BOYCOTT AGAINST THE MULLAHS HAS A GREAT MESSAGE to the Islamist Regime that they MUST GIVE UP POWER PEACEFULY NOW before it is too late Or ELSE ....

Mullahs came with bloodshed and leave with ……

“To sin by silence, when we should protest, Makes cowards out of men.” Ella Wheeler Wilcox (November 5, 1850 -- October 30, 1919)

"Human beings are all members of one body.
They are created from the same essence.
When one member is in pain,
The others cannot rest.
If you do not care about the pain of others,
You do not deserve to be called a human being."

A Quote from Famous Persian Poet Saadi Shirazi
( 13th century Persian poet, from Shiraz the birthplace of Ms. Zahra Kazemi)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:37 am    Post subject: Business as usual Reply with quote

Note that IR needs to REFORM itself:
Blair says Iran Comments about Israel 'Completely Unacceptable'

October 27, 2005
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HAMPTON COURT, England -- Remarks by Iran's leadership that Israel should be "wiped off the map", were "completely and totally unacceptable", said UK Prime Minister Tony Blair. Speaking at the end of an informal summit of EU leaders here, Blair said he would be discussing the ramifications of the remarks with Britain's allies over the next few days.

He warned that the time may be drawing nearer when Iran will have to be confronted over its approach to nuclear weapons and terrorism.

"There has been a long time in which I have been answering questions on Iran with everyone saying to me: 'Tell us you are not going to do anything about Iran'," he said.

"If they carry on like this, the question people are going to be asking us is: 'When are you going to do something about this?'"

"You imagine a state like that, with an attitude like that, having a nuclear weapon."

Blair said the comment, by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, "indicates and underlines how much some of those places need reform themselves".

Blair warned Iran will be seen by the rest of the world as a "real threat" if it persists with its hard line on Israel and its suspected pursuit of nuclear weapons.

"I have never come across a situation (where) the president of a country (says) they want to wipe out -- not that they've got a problem with, or issue with -- but want to wipe out another country," he said.

"This is unacceptable, and their attitude towards Israel, their attitude towards terrorism, their attitude on the nuclear weapons issue isn't acceptable."

"If they continue down this path, then people are going to believe that they are a real threat to our world's security and stability."

"How are we going to build a more secure world with that type of attitude? It's a disgrace."
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Business as usual Reply with quote

espandyar wrote:
Note that IR needs to REFORM itself:
Blair says Iran Comments about Israel 'Completely Unacceptable'

October 27, 2005
AFX News
AFX UK Focus

HAMPTON COURT, England -- Remarks by Iran's leadership that Israel should be "wiped off the map", were "completely and totally unacceptable", said UK Prime Minister Tony Blair. Speaking at the end of an informal summit of EU leaders here, Blair said he would be discussing the ramifications of the remarks with Britain's allies over the next few days.

He warned that the time may be drawing nearer when Iran will have to be confronted over its approach to nuclear weapons and terrorism.

"There has been a long time in which I have been answering questions on Iran with everyone saying to me: 'Tell us you are not going to do anything about Iran'," he said.

"If they carry on like this, the question people are going to be asking us is: 'When are you going to do something about this?'"

"You imagine a state like that, with an attitude like that, having a nuclear weapon."

Blair said the comment, by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, "indicates and underlines how much some of those places need reform themselves".

Blair warned Iran will be seen by the rest of the world as a "real threat" if it persists with its hard line on Israel and its suspected pursuit of nuclear weapons.

"I have never come across a situation (where) the president of a country (says) they want to wipe out -- not that they've got a problem with, or issue with -- but want to wipe out another country," he said.

"This is unacceptable, and their attitude towards Israel, their attitude towards terrorism, their attitude on the nuclear weapons issue isn't acceptable."

"If they continue down this path, then people are going to believe that they are a real threat to our world's security and stability."

"How are we going to build a more secure world with that type of attitude? It's a disgrace."


Dear espandyar,
Please add source URL when you post News.
Regards,
Cyrus
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First Mr. Blair should fire Jack Straw for all past mistakes regarding Islamist regime.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Cyrus,

The source is indicated in the articles, but I will post the URL next time.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know if similar outrage over Ahmadinejad's comments have been voiced by countries such as Russia, China, India, ...?

Just curious! I haven't seen anything in the news about a response from those said countries.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sudi,

The Russian foreign minister was with the Israeli foreign minister at the time and did condem Antar's statement as well.

I have not seen anything from China or India yet....but I'm sure this widespread condemnation of those remarks is going to involve them as well....

Arab nations are condeming it as well as you'll see in the following:





http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/click/rss/1.0/-/2/hi/middle_east/4384264.stm


Iran leader defends Israel remark

Protesters in Tehran burned Israeli flags
Iran's president has defended his widely criticised call for Israel to be "wiped off the map".
Attending an anti-Israel rally in Tehran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said his remarks were "just" - and the criticism did not "have any validity".

His initial comment provoked anger from many governments, and prompted Israel to demand Iran's expulsion from the UN.

Egypt said they showed "the weakness of the Iranian government". A Palestinian official also rejected the remarks.

Defiant rally

Tens of thousands of Iranians took part in the rally in Tehran which Iran organises every year on the last Friday of the fasting month of Ramadan to show solidarity with the Palestinian struggle.

Shouting "Death to Israel, death to the Zionists", the protesters dragged Israeli flags along the ground and then set them on fire.

Palestinians recognise the right of the state of Israel to exist and I reject his comments

Saeb Erekat
Chief Palestinian negotiator


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Many carried posters and placards sporting the slogan "Israel should be wiped off the map".

Joining the protest, Mr Ahmadinejad said: "My words were the Iranian nation's words.

"Westerners are free to comment, but their reactions are invalid," Mr Ahmadinejad told the official Irna news agency.

Some demonstrators wore white shrouds in a symbolic gesture expressing readiness to die for their cause.

"Ahmadinejad talks on behalf of all Iranians. We are ready to die for Palestine," Mohammad Mirzayi, a member of a volunteer Shia militia group, told the Reuters news agency.

'Inexperience'

While most Muslim and Arab capitals have remained silent on the president's remarks, a few have spoken out - including Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat.

"Palestinians recognise the right of the state of Israel to exist and I reject his comments," he told the BBC News website.

"What we need to be talking about is adding the state of Palestine to the map and not wiping Israel from the map," he said.


Tehran says the West's reaction is linked to its nuclear plans

Egypt, which has signed a peace treaty with Israel, also rejected the Iranian line.

"In principle, we are way beyond this type of political rhetoric that shows the weakness of the Iranian government," said an official at the Egyptian embassy in London.

Turkey's prime minister called on the Iranian president "to display political moderation".

Our world affairs correspondent Paul Reynolds says that the UK Foreign Office does not regard President Ahmadinejad's statement on Israel as a new policy but more as a sign of his inexperience and the very local focus of his government.

UK officials suspect that he has held such views for years and that what is happening is that ideologues like him are now in power and are having their views exposed, he adds.

While there is no sense that Iran is backing down, there are Iranians who are concerned that their country could become increasingly isolated under this new ultra-conservative government, reports the BBC Frances Harrison in Tehran.

Diplomatic drive

Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom meanwhile said Israel would call for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council.

"We have decided to open a broad diplomatic offensive," Mr Shalom said.

So far no action has been taken at the UN, but Secretary General Kofi Annan took the unusual step of rebuking Iran for the comments.

Iran has dismissed the international furore as a means of pressing Iran to compromise on its nuclear programme.

Negotiations have stalled between the EU and Iran over attempts to persuade Tehran to abandon its nuclear ambitions.
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