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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject: Shirin Ebadi is a traitor to Iran and Iranians! Reply with quote

Shirin Ebadi is a traitor to Iran and Iranians!


Dear LA Times Editor

In your opinion section, this article titled Defusing Iran With Democracy; on the second paragraph Ebadi writes:
“When the U.S. and its allies encouraged the shah in the 1970s to start Iran's nuclear energy program, they helped create the Frankenstein that has become so controversial today. If, instead, they had pressed the shah to undertake political reforms, respect human rights and release Iran's political prisoners, history could have been very different.”
She then proceeds to justify the Iranian nuclear program and suggested a slap on the wrist for IRI.

In conclusion she writes” Lastly, the U.S. and Iran should enter direct negotiations. It is simply absurd for the U.S. and the most important nation in the Middle East not to communicate directly. The Bush administration should not be seduced by exile groups with no support in Iran. Developing democracy is an internal affair.”

As you are aware when the puppet masters gave her the Noble peace prize, on her ceremonial speech instead of addressing Iranian human rights violations, she criticized US and the Guantanamo Bay situation.

Instead of defending human rights and campaigning to stop child execution in Iran, this so-called lawyer defends the IRI terrorist regime’s quest for obtaining weapons of mass destruction.

I find this woman to be a mouthpiece for the IRI, and a traitor to Iran and Iranians!
This article is very poorly written, lacks reasoning and does not deserve publication!

Sincerely,

Ramin Etebar, MD

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Defusing Iran With Democracy

January 19, 2006
Los Angeles Times
Shirin Ebadi and Muhammad Sahimi

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ebadi19jan19,0,5662866.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

Lost in the international fury over Iran's partial restart of its nuclear energy program, and the deplorable statements by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad regarding Israel, has been the fact that respect for human rights and a democratic political system are the most effective deterrent against the threat that any aspiring nuclear power, including Iran, may pose to the world.

When the U.S. and its allies encouraged the shah in the 1970s to start Iran's nuclear energy program, they helped create the Frankenstein that has become so controversial today. If, instead, they had pressed the shah to undertake political reforms, respect human rights and release Iran's political prisoners, history could have been very different.

In the three decades since then, India, South Africa, North Korea, Israel and Pakistan have joined the nuclear club — and most people would acknowledge that the democracies among them are viewed today as the least threatening. In the 1980s, South Africa's apartheid regime made several nuclear bombs, but the democratic government of Nelson Mandela dismantled them. India has a nuclear arsenal, but few perceive the world's largest democracy as a global threat. Nor is Israel considered likely to be the first in the Middle East to use nuclear weapons in a conflict.

But North Korea's nuclear program is a threat because its regime is secretive, its leader a recluse. The nuclear arsenal of Pakistan is dangerous because the military, which runs the country and is populated by Islamic extremists, helped create the Taliban and allowed Abdul Qadeer Khan to freely operate a nuclear supermarket.

Iran's nuclear program began accelerating around 1997 when the reform-minded Mohammad Khatami was elected president — just as Iran was developing an independent press, and just before a reformist parliament was elected in 2000. The reformists supported the nuclear program but wanted it to be fully transparent and in compliance with Iran's international obligations. These were reassuring signs that it would not get out of control.

But instead of backing Iran's fledgling democratic movement, which would have led to nuclear transparency, the U.S. undercut it by demonizing Iran.

While Khatami proposed people-to-people dialogue between Americans and Iranians, Washington chose to block Iranian scholars, artists and authors from visiting the U.S. Although Khatami helped the U.S. in Afghanistan, President Bush designated Iran a member of the "axis of evil."

By 2003, when it became clear that Khatami's reforms had stalled, the world started paying closer attention to Iran's nuclear program. So, what had demonizing Iran achieved?

The U.S. will not solve the nuclear problem by threatening military strikes or by dragging Iran before the U.N. Security Council. Although a vast majority of Iranians despise the country's hard-liners and wish for their downfall, they also support its nuclear program because it has become a source of pride for an old nation with a glorious history.

A military attack would only inflame nationalist sentiments. Iran is not Iraq. Given Iranians' fierce nationalism and the Shiites' tradition of martyrdom, any military move would provoke a response that would engulf the entire region, resulting in countless deaths and a ruined economy not only for the region but for the world.

Imposing U.N. sanctions on Iran would also be counterproductive, prompting Tehran to leave the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and its "additional protocol." Is the world ready to live with such prospects?

So, what can the West do? Western nations should help the U.N. appoint a special human rights monitor for Iran. It would remind the General Assembly of Iran's human rights record annually, and strongly condemn it if the record keeps deteriorating. Contrary to the general perception, Iran's clerics are sensitive to outside criticism.

The World Bank should stop providing Iran with loans and, instead, work with nongovernmental organizations and the private sector to strengthen civil society. The West should support Iran's human-rights and democracy advocates, nominate jailed leaders for international awards and keep the cause in the public eye. Western nations should downgrade diplomatic relations if Iran continues violating basic human rights.

Iran is at least six to 10 years away from a nuclear bomb, by most estimates. The crisis is not even a crisis. There is ample time for political reform before Iran ever develops the bomb. Meanwhile, the West should permit Iran a limited uranium enrichment program (as allowed under the nonproliferation treaty) under strict safeguards by the International Atomic Energy Agency — but only when Tehran undertakes meaningful reforms, including freeing political prisoners and holding free and fair elections.

Lastly, the U.S. and Iran should enter direct negotiations. It is simply absurd for the U.S. and the most important nation in the Middle East not to communicate directly. The Bush administration should not be seduced by exile groups with no support in Iran. Developing democracy is an internal affair.

Democracy, in the end, will provide the ultimate safeguard against nuclear disaster, because a truly democratic Iran, backed by a majority of Iranians, would feel secure enough not to pursue dangerous military adventures.

SHIRIN EBADI, a human rights advocate, was awarded the 2003 Nobel Peace Prize. MUHAMMAD SAHIMI is a professor of chemical engineering at USC.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Shirin Ebadi is a traitor to Iran and Iranians! Reply with quote

Ramin Etebar,MD wrote:


Dear LA Times Editor

In your opinion section, this article titled Defusing Iran With Democracy; on the second paragraph Ebadi writes:
“When the U.S. and its allies encouraged the shah in the 1970s to start Iran's nuclear energy program, they helped create the Frankenstein that has become so controversial today. If, instead, they had pressed the shah to undertake political reforms, respect human rights and release Iran's political prisoners, history could have been very different.”
She then proceeds to justify the Iranian nuclear program and suggested a slap on the wrist for IRI.

In conclusion she writes” Lastly, the U.S. and Iran should enter direct negotiations. It is simply absurd for the U.S. and the most important nation in the Middle East not to communicate directly. The Bush administration should not be seduced by exile groups with no support in Iran. Developing democracy is an internal affair.”

As you are aware when the puppet masters gave her the Noble peace prize, on her ceremonial speech instead of addressing Iranian human rights violations, she criticized US and the Guantanamo Bay situation.

Instead of defending human rights and campaigning to stop child execution in Iran, this so-called lawyer defends the IRI terrorist regime’s quest for obtaining weapons of mass destruction.

I find this woman to be a mouthpiece for the IRI, and a traitor to Iran and Iranians!
This article is very poorly written, lacks reasoning and does not deserve publication!

Sincerely,

Ramin Etebar, MD





Dear Dr. Etebar,
You are absolutely right.


Ebadi SHAME ON YOU
Ramin Etebar,MD wrote:

Instead of defending human rights and campaigning to stop child execution in Iran, this so-called lawyer defends the IRI terrorist regime’s quest for obtaining weapons of mass destruction.





Iran : A 17 year old girl is sentenced to death by hanging.
2006/01/08

Source: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/601081013.htm



A Plea For Support & PROTEST: Rise Up For Defense Of Brave 17-year-old Iranian girl Sentenced to Death By Islamist Mullah Court for Defending Herself Against Three Islamist Rapists and Support Islamist Regime Change NOW


To: All Freedom-Loving Compatriots (Right, Left and Center)

17-year-old Brave Iranian Girl Nazanin was sentenced to death by hanging for defending herself against three rapists on April 20th, 2005.
A Brave girl who defended herself and her chastity against three male assailants who intended to kidnap and rape her causing injury to one of them who later died in hospital was condemned to death by hanging in an Islamic court in Iran. Nazanin who has seen no more than 17 Springs, all of which under the tyrannical rule of the Mullahs is now facing execution for trying to defend herself and her honor.

No where in the world and under no law self defense is considered to be a crime, but in the tyrannical Mullacracy of Iran if a woman does not resist rape she will be stoned as adulterer and if she does she will be hanged.

Nazanin, this young innocent girl, was assaulted by three Islamist men in the West of Tehran while strolling with her niece in a park last March (2005). To defend herself she pulled out a knife and stabbed one of her assailants. The knife penetrated the ribs of her attacker who later died in the hospital. The attacks on women in Iran is so frequent that many are forced to carry a concealed weapon for self defense. Unfortunately the Islamic law does not even allow women the right to self defense.

Despite the fact that she had been acting in self defense, as shown by the evidences presented and the testimony of eyewitnesses, Nazanin was sentenced to death by hanging.

During Nazanin's court hearing, onlookers who witnessed the attack, confirmed Nazanin's claims against her assailants; the penal court, branch 71 decided however that the death sentence must be imposed. In her last court hearing, Nazanin said: "I only wanted to defend myself and protect my family's reputation and good name." One of the Mullah judges replied: "How could you murder a young man? We will teach you a lesson so that the likes of your filthy whores cannot raise a hand on men ever again."
Later it turned out that her attackers were in fact Basijis (a mobilization force created by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini; they are extremely Radical militia - overseen and supported by Khamenei and Ahmadinejad) from Karaj.
it is outrageous for a woman to stand for her rights and defend her dignity and honor, swiftly ordered her execution.

The travesty of justice in Islamic Republic of Iran is beyond description. Please send this news to all the newspapers big and small. Please do not allow this crime go unnoticed. This girl is an innocent flower in the hands of ferocious beasts. Do not allow them to nip her young life in the bud. Let us together provoke an outcry so loud that the ruling thugs in Iran can’t ignore.

These criminals have no shame and don’t give a hoot to world outcry and condemnation. Nonetheless it is our duty as humans not to remain silent.

In another case of “acid attack” from Iran Focus source we have been informed: Tehran, Iran, Jan. 04 – In the latest “acid attack” by radical Islamists on young women accused of ignoring the country’s strict dress regulations, two female university students had acid splashed on their faces in the town of Shahroud, north-eastern Iran. ( http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5152 )

A Plea For Support & Demonstration Attendance from all Freedom-Loving Activists around the world in our united fight against Execution of 17 Year Old Girl, Terrorists, Islamofascists, and Fanaticism!
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AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

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AI Index: MDE 13/005/2006 (Public)
News Service No: 010
16 January 2006

Source: http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/document.do?id=ENGMDE130052006


Iran: Amnesty International calls for end to death penalty for child offenders

Amnesty International is calling on the Iranian authorities to take immediate steps to end the use of the death penalty for child offenders. Two new cases have been reported in which child offenders – persons under 18 at the time of the crime – have been sentenced to death by Iranian courts, in breach of Iran’s obligations under international human rights law.

On 3 January, 18-year-old Nazanin was sentenced to death for murder by a criminal court, after she reportedly admitted stabbing to death one of three men who attempted to rape her and her 16-year-old niece in a park in Karaj in March 2005. She was seventeen at the time. Her sentence is subject to review by the Court of Appeal, and if upheld, to confirmation by the Supreme Court.

According to reports in the Iranian newspaper, E’temaad, Nazanin told the court that three men had approached her and her niece, forced them to the ground and tried to rape them. Seeking to defend her niece and herself, Nazanin stabbed one man in the hand with a knife that she possessed and then, when the men continued to pursue them, stabbed another of the men in the chest. She reportedly told the court “I wanted to defend myself and my niece. I did not want to kill that boy. At the heat of the moment I did not know what to do because no one came to our help”, but was nevertheless sentenced to death.


Another child offender, 19-year-old Delara Darabi, was sentenced to death by a court in the city of Rasht for a murder committed when she was 17 years old. She denied the killing but the sentence was upheld by the Supreme Court at the beginning of January, though her lawyer is reportedly appealing the decision.

The Persian language news service Aftab reported that Delara Darabi and a 19-year-old man, Amir Hossein, broke into a house intending to commit burglary, but killed the woman who lived there. Delara Darabi initially confessed to the murder, but subsequently retracted her confession and stated that she had admitted responsibility for the murder at the request of Amir Hossein, to help him escape execution, because he believed that she would not be sentenced to death because she was under 18 at the time of the murder. She said that she was under the influence of sedatives during the burglary.

As a state party to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC), Iran has undertaken not to execute anyone for an offence committed when they were under the age of 18. Nevertheless, Amnesty International has recorded 18 executions of child offenders in Iran since 1990. In 2005 alone, at least eight executions of child offenders were recorded.

The Iranian authorities have been reported for about four years to be considering passing legislation to ban the use of the death penalty for offences committed under the age of 18. Despite this, over the past two years, the number of child offenders executed has risen. Recent comments by a judiciary spokesperson suggest that the new law would in any case only prohibit the death penalty for certain crimes when committed by children, as he stated that “qisas” crimes (retribution – the sentence issued in cases where defendants are found guilty of murder) were a private, not a state matter. The majority of executions of child offenders in Iran are cases of “qisas” where the individual has been found guilty of murder.

The UN Committee on the Rights of the Child, which monitors states’ compliance with the CRC, in January 2005 urged Iran to immediately stay all executions of people convicted of crimes committed when they were under 18, and to abolish the use of the death penalty in such cases.

On 9 December, Philip Alston, the United Nations Human Rights Commission’s Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, said “At a time when virtually every other country in the world has firmly and clearly renounced the execution of people for crimes they committed as children, the Iranian approach is particularly unacceptable... It is all the more surprising because the obligation to refrain from such executions is not only clear and incontrovertible, but the Government of Iran has itself stated that it will cease this practice.”

Amnesty International is calling on the Iranian authorities to prevent the executions of Delara Darabi and Nazanin and other child offenders, and to take urgent steps to abolish the death penalty for all child offenders in accordance with Iran’s obligations as a state party to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:15 pm    Post subject: Shirin Ebadi What should we call her?? Reply with quote

Fellow ActivistChat Member Spenta Called Her Long Time Ago:

Shirin Ebadi What should we call her??
http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=718&highlight=ebadi

Spenta wrote:

Ayatollah Seyed Mohamad Shirin Ebadi


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Oh, who now can remember the jawanmardi of Rostam?
Where are the brave Pahlavanan when they are needed against the tyrant?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ebadi writes:
“When the U.S. and its allies encouraged the shah in the 1970s to start Iran's nuclear energy program, they helped create the Frankenstein that has become so controversial today. If, instead, they had pressed the shah to undertake political reforms, respect human rights and release Iran's political prisoners, history could have been very different.”


Let’s review.

There is a worthless regime, called the IRI.

There is a worthless pseudo-intellectual attorney, called Shirin Ebadi.

This worthless attorney supposedly criticized the worthless IRI ( though that’s not what makes her worthless; what makes her worthless are quotes such as the above).

There is a committee who selects candidates based on merit for the very prestigious Nobel awards. Though this committee is not always worthless, it has proven itself worthless on a number of occasions in the last decade. What made it worthless in one particular occasion was when it decided to award a worthless person such as Ebadi this prestigious award (which is losing its prestige more and more each day) simply for appearing to be critical of the worthless IRI regime (though in reality she is not really a critic).

The occasionally worthless Nobel committee must think that the world is also worthless, if it thinks that the world will give weight to Ebadi’s credibility simply because she holds this award.

The Nobel peace prize is becoming more and more a worthless award, when we consider some of its recipients. Shirin Ebadi, Jimmy Carter, Koffi Annan, and my personal favorite and former PLO head, Yasser Arafat (the poster child of terrorism). These four awards need to be placed next to each other, for they are all equally worthless.

Some of the recent recipients of Nobel’s peace prize have brought disgrace upon a once truly noble recognition. They have taken away some of the genuine homage to its prior recipients. Truly deserving people, such as Martin Luther King Jr, Mother Teresa, and the Dalai Lama.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: From SOSIRAN-Siavash Reply with quote

By SOSIRAN-Siavash:

What are you doing in America? Go home and free our beloved political prisoners, protect human rights and stop acting like a politician or journalist!

Worthless Ebadi wrote:

Defusing Iran with democracy

By Shirin Ebadi and Muhammad Sahimi, SHIRIN EBADI, a human rights advocate, was awarded the 2003 Nobel Peace Prize. MUHAMMAD SAHIMI is a professor of chemical engineering at USC.

LOST IN THE international fury over Iran's partial restart of its nuclear energy program, and the deplorable statements by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad regarding Israel, has been the fact that respect for human rights and a democratic political system are the most effective deterrent against the threat that any aspiring nuclear power, including Iran, may pose to the world.
When the U.S. and its allies encouraged the shah in the 1970s to start Iran's nuclear energy program, they helped create the Frankenstein that has become so controversial today. If, instead, they had pressed the shah to undertake political reforms, respect human rights and release Iran's political prisoners, history could have been very different.

Ms. Ebadi, I don’t quiet understand it! Haven’t you claimed, in the past, that you’re not a politician and that you’re only a human rights advocate? Are you not unintentionally getting involved in an arena that is not your expertise, namely politics? Or your urge to defend your so-called reform-minded Khatami or your uncontrollable itch to legitimize the terrorist regime of Iran is so great that it pushes you off the edge and beyond the scope of your qualification?

I agree with you that the current president of Iran, Ahmadinejad, is indeed a Frankenstein and another out-of-control monster of the mafia pack. However, even if we were to assume what you claim regarding U.S. encouragement of shah in 1970 is true, are you not asking U.S. to do the opposite of what you are preaching with respect to the Frankenstein? U.S. is doing exactly what you suggested she should have done in 1970 with shah. That is, U.S. is rightfully discouraging the current Frankenstein to continue its clandestine nuclear development. This way, the world community and human rights advocates like you can rest assured the terror-maters in Iran won’t breed more Frankensteins in the future.


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

In the three decades since then, India, South Africa, North Korea, Israel and Pakistan have joined the nuclear club — and most people would acknowledge that the democracies among them are viewed today as the least threatening. In the 1980s, South Africa's apartheid regime made several nuclear bombs, but the democratic government of Nelson Mandela dismantled them. India has a nuclear arsenal, but few perceive the world's largest democracy as a global threat. Nor is Israel considered likely to be the first in the Middle East to use nuclear weapons in a conflict.

None of the countries mentioned above have ever threatened Israel to be wiped off the map and wished America to be destroyed. There is not a single country in the world whose regime encourages groups of its supporters and thugs every week (such as on Friday prayers) to shout death to America and death to Israel.


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

But North Korea's nuclear program is a threat because its regime is secretive, its leader a recluse. The nuclear arsenal of Pakistan is dangerous because the military, which runs the country and is populated by Islamic extremists, helped create the Taliban and allowed Abdul Qadeer Khan to freely operate a nuclear supermarket.

Frankly, I'm not surprised that you are, as always, more concerned about all the world's problems except, of course, Iran! Remember when you received your Award, how you rode upon the shoulders of Cyrus The Great (Kurosh Kabir) and soared above the clouds (happily googeli shangool) but cared or said none about Cyrus’s grandchildren in Iran’s prisons?

Remember how to the dismay of millions of Iranians, you called yourself a “Muslim woman” and not an “Iranian woman” while defending the Abu Gharib and Guantanamo bay prisoners’ rights? Are we to believe you are not a traitor and you are not trying to save the repulsive face of the terrorist regime of Iran? Which other problems of world’s countries are you going to tackle before you’re willing to take a step for your own motherland and Cyrus's grandchildren?


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

Iran's nuclear program began accelerating around 1997 when the reform-minded Mohammad Khatami was elected president — just as Iran was developing an independent press, and just before a reformist parliament was elected in 2000. The reformists supported the nuclear program but wanted it to be fully transparent and in compliance with Iran's international obligations. These were reassuring signs that it would not get out of control.

By 1997, the despotic regime of Iran had already been developing its nuclear program illegally and covertly for over 10 years without the knowledge of Iranian population and the world community. Where was the independent press under your reform-minded Khatami to report about such clandestine and dishonest program?

Is your anger against the opposition groups due to the fact that it took the opposition groups to expose the secrets of IRI hidden nuclear programs which proved to the world that among the ranks of IRI there was not a single honest and good Muslem individual to tell the truth?


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

But instead of backing Iran's fledgling democratic movement, which would have led to nuclear transparency, the U.S. undercut it by demonizing Iran.

Are you suggesting that U.S. falsely characterized an angel as a demon?! Remember on your first interview in Paris on October 10 (shortly after receiving your Award), how you stated: "There is no contradiction between Islam and Human Rights", remember?!!!

Remember in the same interview how you said "I respect the Islamic Republic's constitution"? Well, why shouldn't you respect it and why shouldn't you get offended when U.S. rightfully demonizes IRI?! If it wasn't because of IRI, you would not have ever received such phony Award and you would not have been a millioner. SHAME ON YOU INDEED!


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

While Khatami proposed people-to-people dialogue between Americans and Iranians, Washington chose to block Iranian scholars, artists and authors from visiting the U.S. Although Khatami helped the U.S. in Afghanistan, President Bush designated Iran a member of the "axis of evil."

Why didn’t Khatami practice what he preached and have people-to-people dialogue of civilizations with the world community? Why didn’t he inform the world community that his gang had been working on a secret nuclear project for over a decade? Or is your reform-minded Khatami an advocate of “Taghiyeh” (dissimulation) which is widely encouraged and practiced by Iranian religious leaders?

When citizens in Iran are publicly hung via cranes and young people are flogged in the public squares and women are burried chest deep and stone to death, how can Khatami suggest such misleading slogan of "dialogue among civilization"? How could he qualify as a member of such "civilized community", leave alone claiming to be the leader or author of such dialogue? You and your heroes are truly a disgrace to mankind!

In the 8-year presidency of Khatami, what were his accomplishment? Did he not look the other way when regime’s hooligans were tossing out students from 3rd floor dormitory building down to their death? What did Khatami do to free any of our beloved students and political prisoners?


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

By 2003, when it became clear that Khatami's reforms had stalled, the world started paying closer attention to Iran's nuclear program. So, what had demonizing Iran achieved?

Ms. Ebadi, it was very clear to the majority of Iranians that the reform you’re suggesting that never really existed in Iran, was nothing but a sham and an illusion of supporters of IRI regime such as you. The reform had not stalled in 2003, because there was no reform to begin with. During Khatami’s presidency, while you were busy appeasing your deceptive reform-minded president, atrocities against humanity took place all around the four corners of the country. But your president, the bloody extension of the despotic regime of Iran, kept smiling.


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

The U.S. will not solve the nuclear problem by threatening military strikes or by dragging Iran before the U.N. Security Council. Although a vast majority of Iranians despise the country's hard-liners and wish for their downfall, they also support its nuclear program because it has become a source of pride for an old nation with a glorious history.

Ms. Ebadi, it appears that you must have gone to the same school as Khatami as I see you’re as good as he is in practicing “Taghiyeh”. The majority of Iranians despise having an old Russian nuclear technology. Nuclear program has not been a source of pride for Iranians, rather it is what the regime and you wish to portray falsely. It is truly shameful to push the nuclear program when 100% of Iranian government workers are under poverty line. Yes, Iran is an old nation. Iran has had glorious history except for the past 27 years. However, thanks to you and those you support like Khatami, what has been happening in past quarter of century has been the worst tragic events of Iranian history.

I’m truly appalled how you claim to be a human rights advocate, yet cleverly attempt to buy time for what may prove to be the precursor to the biggest human devastation, a Chernobyl catastrophe!


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

A military attack would only inflame nationalist sentiments. Iran is not Iraq. Given Iranians' fierce nationalism and the Shiites' tradition of martyrdom, any military move would provoke a response that would engulf the entire region, resulting in countless deaths and a ruined economy not only for the region but for the world.

Although you clearly are not nationalist as you prefer to be referred to as a Muslim woman than Iranian woman, I agree with you that Iran is not Iraq. For one thing, Iranians are already fierce nationalist and that is why they abhor their president and other occupying rulers wearing Palestinian scarf around their neck. Iranians have had 27 years to learn from their past mistakes. They will not rally behind the filthy mullahs and the Frankenstein anymore.

Please don’t try to threaten and scare the world community of Shiites tradition of martyrdom. Hassan Abbasi, Khamenei’s senior advisor, the man who claimed to have trained Hezbollah terrorists with his own dirty hands and the director of the Center for Security Doctrines did his best to do the same but he also failed miserably.


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

Imposing U.N. sanctions on Iran would also be counterproductive, prompting Tehran to leave the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and its "additional protocol." Is the world ready to live with such prospects?

Not if the sanctions are of smart strategic kinds. The kinds which freezes the assets of murderers such as Rafsanjani, Khatami, Khamenei and the rest of the gang. Don’t worry about IRI walking out of NPT, it won’t take long before Iranians would topple the regime. You need to think where you’re going to reside, in Iran or abroad, among many of the opposition groups whom you’re so against?


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

So, what can the West do? Western nations should help the U.N. appoint a special human rights monitor for Iran. It would remind the General Assembly of Iran's human rights record annually, and strongly condemn it if the record keeps deteriorating. Contrary to the general perception, Iran's clerics are sensitive to outside criticism.

Oh, please don’t tell me you want Goli Ameri the friend of Hooshang Amirahmadi (your body) to monitor Iran’s human rights activity. I also doubt if Iranians would vote for you to take such an important task.


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

The World Bank should stop providing Iran with loans and, instead, work with nongovernmental organizations and the private sector to strengthen civil society. The West should support Iran's human-rights and democracy advocates, nominate jailed leaders for international awards and keep the cause in the public eye. Western nations should downgrade diplomatic relations if Iran continues violating basic human rights.

By downgrading diplomatic relations if Iran continues violating basic human rights, are you suggesting not to have any diplomatic relations with Iran (as U.S. is rightfully doing now) until such a time that all political prisoners in Iran are freed and IRI’s other violations are halted? Or are you in favor of full diplomatic relation right off the bat as your friend, Hooshang Amirahmadi is suggesting: See Your griend, Hooshang Amirahmadi also advocates full diplomatic relation with Iran


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

Iran is at least six to 10 years away from a nuclear bomb, by most estimates. The crisis is not even a crisis. There is ample time for political reform before Iran ever develops the bomb. Meanwhile, the West should permit Iran a limited uranium enrichment program (as allowed under the nonproliferation treaty) under strict safeguards by the International Atomic Energy Agency — but only when Tehran undertakes meaningful reforms, including freeing political prisoners and holding free and fair elections.


WOW, how shocking that your claim of nuclear energy suddenly changes to discussion of nuclear BOMB! No expert in this field has estimated the time to be 10 years. But if 10 years in your opinion is ample time for political reform, why is it that the reform-minded president of yours didn’t do a damn thing during his 8-year reign?


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

Lastly, the U.S. and Iran should enter direct negotiations. It is simply absurd for the U.S. and the most important nation in the Middle East not to communicate directly. The Bush administration should not be seduced by exile groups with no support in Iran. Developing democracy is an internal affair.

Now, you’re spilling your guts out! You see, for so long as our so-called “human rights advocates” like you advocate direct negotiations with our sons and daughters’ rapists and torturers, you're no human rights of mine and we will achieve no democracy. In the past 27 years, you’ve been negotiating with and appeasing IRI rulers. Will you kind enough to tell America what your accomplishments have been in the past 27 years?

Did you do a damn thing regarding Zahra Kazemi? How about Batebi or Fakhravar or Mohammadi brothers? How about Ganji or Forouhar couple? Anything you achieved with respect to Piran or Arjang Davoodi? Is that enough or should I continue?

In an interview with Amir Abbas Fakhravar, our beloved political prisoner and student leader who is on the run, the Reporter reports: Opposition to the theocracy is so intense, he feels, that “it is going to be much easier and cheaper and involve fewer casualties if the U.S. supports democratic movements in Iran. The way to do that could be a lot of things, from financial aid to support for communication from the outside”(a reference to pro-democracy satellite T.V. broadcasts from Iranian émigrés).
See Student Leader in Iran, Fakhravar requests America to help opposition inside and outside

Ms. Ebadi, you are misrepresenting the truth as your words are a mirror image of those of the mullah rulers within Iran. How are you planning to live among the opposition soon when IRI is toppled? Where are you going to spend your $1½ million you received for your phony Nobel Peace Prize Award?


Worthless Ebadi wrote:

Democracy, in the end, will provide the ultimate safeguard against nuclear disaster, because a truly democratic Iran, backed by a majority of Iranians, would feel secure enough not to pursue dangerous military adventures.

That is exactly what we are planning to do. America will support opposition groups, inside and outside Iran. That is the quickest and safest path to democracy. Then powerful and strong opposition will topple the current rulers and see that the ruling occupiers and their supporters like you will have a fair trial for the possible crimes of humanity that they have committed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:26 am    Post subject: Ms Ebadi, spend your time wisely Reply with quote

Please spend your time defending human rights of Iranian people if your Masters allow you to pick up your pen to do that!
you know very well that the Mullah's are not going to let a fair and impartial foreign body to monitor their human right practices, how about asking for a free press and information flow instead; and by that I mean a free press that could get away with having a funny contest to pick a winner of the best joke about coming of the 12th imam Smile
then we can see how long you guys last!
A democratic and peaceful Iran don't need Atomic bomb, nuclear technology is 60 years old and buying it on the black market form Pakistanis should be shameful and not a source of pride for Iranians.
It is extremely irresponsible for anybody to have a potentially devastating technology where one must be so dependent on outside expertise for building, developing such technology; would you like that in your backyard! and don't tell us Iranian scientist or technician are doing all the work because if they were Tel-Aviv wouldn't be standing today! to prove my point just look around and count the number of mosques in your neighborhood they are somewhat less technically challenged to build than building a reactor. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said, Cyrus.

Thanks for taking the time to answer Ebadi’s gibberish, and putting her in her place.

Ebadi’s Quote:

Quote:
I am a Moslem woman


Ms Ebadi, since you have chosen to identify yourself as a “Moslem woman,” may I suggest you visit the site for the Dr. Homa Darabi foundation? In that site you will find an article by Parvin Darabi, Homa’s sister, entitled “I Am a Moslem Woman.” Perhaps you will get a better understanding of what exactly is a Moslem woman.

http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352725&TOCID=2083225347

Furthermore, please enlighten us if you wish to challenge anything in that article as untrue.

And in case you don’t know who Homa Darabi was, I’ll only inform you of her last act:

“When a 16 year old girl was shot to death in Northern Tehran for wearing lipstick about a month prior to her death, Dr. Darabi could no longer handle the guilt she felt about her favorable involvement in the Iranian Revolution, and the way women were being treated in Iran, she finally decided to protest the oppression of women by setting herself on fire in a crowded square in northern Tehran, on February 21, 1994. Her last cry was

Death to Tyranny
Long Live Liberty
Long Live Iran. “

http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352768&TOCID=2083225346

So please, Ms Ebadi, continue to identify yourself as a Moslem woman instead of an Iranian woman. If you did otherwise, it would be an insult to all Iranian women.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Aask the NOBEL WITCH: Are you a Moslem woman????? Reply with quote

Ask the NOBEL WITCH: Are you a Moslem woman?????

Watch this video on the URL below and ask the NOBEL WITCH did any of these atrocities did not meet her criteria for commenting?

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm#video

Shirin Ebadi, are you a Moslem woman????

Is what is done in Iran under Islam according to shari’ law? If no why you don’t defend these victims? You are a so-called lawyer and human rights activists!

If the true Islam commits these crimes and atrocities you don’t condemn it as a former judge and human rights activist?

Instead of addressing the horrific crimes you criticize US and the Guantanamo Bay situation?

Isalam has no conflict with Democray? Then why your prisons are overflowing with dissidents and the cemeteries are running out of space ?

Instead of babbling “While Khatami proposed people-to-people dialogue between Americans and Iranians, Washington chose to block Iranian scholars, artists and authors from visiting the U.S. Although Khatami helped the U.S. in Afghanistan, President Bush designated Iran a member of the "axis of evil." Did you comment on the poor women being stoned in this video? How about the summer of 1988 when IRI massacred more than 30000 Iranian in a matter of days?

The NOBEL WITCH Instead of defending human rights and campaigning to stop child execution in Iran, this so-called lawyer defends the IRI terrorist regime’s quest for obtaining weapons of mass destruction.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Ramin,

Take a look at the quote at the end...it may explain at least part of the story.




Iranian Hardliner Says Iran will Produce Atomic Bomb

February 14, 2005
IranMania
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LONDON -- A leading member of Iran’s Hezbollah, Hojjat-ol-Islam Baqer Kharrazi after years of silence delivered a harsh speech against the reformists and the administration in Iran, Iran Emrooz reported.

“I kept silent over the past 14 years, because Hezbollah needed to be restructured and I was busy with training the forces. Although no Iranian media reflected Hezbollah leaders’ recent meeting with head of Iran’s State Expediency Council, Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, I should say we elaborated on Hezbollah’s activities for Rafsanjani in detail and the former president was amazed with our progress.” Kharrazi claimed.

“We don’t need any guardian. And if necessary we will select our own president, ministers and parliament members. For without the Hezbollah forces the Islamic Revolution will collapse from within.” the hardliner added.

Referring to the Sunni population in Iran’s western, eastern and southern borders, Kharrazi said: “Presently the country’s borders are controlled by Sunnis. We have to counter their growth in the country.”

On Iran’s nuclear issue, Kharrazi noted: “We have oil, gas and all other natural resources and thus we don’t need interaction with other countries. We are able to produce atomic bombs and we will do that. We shouldn’t be afraid of anyone. The US is no more than a barking dog”

Pointing to Iranian Peace Prize Laureate and human rights advocate the Hezbollah member noted: “Shirin Ebadi should not think that she can act as Benazir Bhutto of Pakistan. Hezbollah just needs a wrong gesture from her to shoot her. It was the leader’s blessing that has kept her alive to this day.”
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:25 am    Post subject: Iran’s Hezbollah Reply with quote

Dear Oppenheimer

I think this quote is even more interesting:

“We don’t need any guardian. And if necessary we will select our own president, ministers and parliament members. For without the Hezbollah forces the Islamic Revolution will collapse from within.”
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Ramin,

Indeed, the whole of it speaks volumes....

intent, intent, intent.....the only reason the structure of government didn't change is that a symbiotic understanding was reached...Rasfanjani "lost" the election, as was planned in advance....apointed head of the expediancy council....

if this doesn't prove colusion, intent to aquire nukes, the level of preparation and the fact they are all on the same page with each other...I can't think what does.

As for the witch...it may be she's got a gun to her head (and her family's) which might explain the change in her since the award...having become a mouthpiece for the regime, while attacking it just enough (as they allow her to) to try and retain some semblance of credibility in the west.

Traitor or simply victim of the regime....maybe both. She'll have to answer to the people.

In any case, I think this article should be on the front page of every news org on the planet. And it should have been last year when it was published.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:21 am    Post subject: Iranian political prisoners’ criticism of Shirin Ebadi Reply with quote

Iranian political prisoners’ criticism of Shirin Ebadi

Dated February 24, 2006

Farsi to English translation by Ramin Etebar, M.D.


To Leaders of western governments, their respective foreign ministers & human rights organizations, We have deemed it necessary to direct your attention to the following matters:

It has been approximately two years since awarding the Noble peace prize to Shirin Ebadi . Even though it was our pride that an Iranian woman was awarded the prize, this does not prevent us from mentioning her weaknesses.

Mrs. Ebadi having plenty of financial and political opportunities as well as being an authority on human rights in Iran has the opportunity to voice the human rights violations in Iran. Prior to receiving the Noble prize she was an ordinary lawyer that was jailed less than 25 days and was released after writing a repent letter, naturally not much was expected of her, but today, given the circumstances above, we have higher expectations from her. We have noted a conservative attitude in her depicted in interviews, speeches, articles and reports.

A few days ago, the execution rumor of our prison friend Hojat Zamani with whom we had an ideological conflict broke out. We and Hojat’s family have been in a psychological warfare with the regime, rumors of his execution were never confirmed or denied. Mrs. Ebadi failed to mention or condemn this act by the regime.

Isn’t Hojat Zamani a human being? We are certain that Mrs. Ebadi dose not report the truth to the western leaders and human rights organizations.

Her reports are ‘directed” and cause diversion, to the point that her status has declined to a lobbyist for 3 of her friends that are respected by us.

She has never mentioned some people who have spent 27 years of their life in prison. She has never defended the imprisoned students and political dissidents

who are in jails for several years. She has no true knowledge of the political prisoners’ statistics and census. She thinks that all the political prisoners are the three individuals that she is representing them as a lawyer. She even introduces her friends for political prisoner’s awards, she will not mention people who have suffered more tortures and prison terms than her friends and are popular among the people. Aren’t these actions discriminatory and misrepresentation of the truth? How is this that she vigorously endeavors and advocates for her friend and client in jail for espionage, yet she does not speak a word for dissidents who have been jailed and tortured several years for nonviolent resistance? Isn’t this discrimination and apartheid?

Why should the Western leaders in Europe and America as well as human rights organizations be influenced and “canalized” by such a suspicious character?

Does Iran have only 3 political prisoners? Why shouldn’t she say a word about the 8 death row prisoners that can be executed any minute? Is this claiming justice and defense of human rights? Unfortunately it appears that the western leaders are being severely influenced by such unjust and problematic lobbyist!

How often from focusing on two or threes prisoners, by awards, political propaganda and censoring other political prisoners this segregation is comprehensible?

It is imperative that any Iranian nationalist try to translate this critique to different languages specially English, German, French, and Spanish; notify
western leaders, their foreign ministers, and human rights organizations as well as the media in Europe and specially the United States; asking them to expose this discrimination and apartheid in human rights.

Soon we will issue a communiqué regarding biography, past performance and negligence of Mrs. Shirin Ebadi concerning duty and mission for public defense of human rights in a clear and transparent manner.



Signed by: Dissident students and political prisoners


From Evin Prison:

Manouchehr Mohammadi
Akbar Mohammadi
Khaled Hardani
Mostafa Jokar
Behnam Vafaseresht
Hashem Shaeian
Hydar Gholi Soltani
Hojat Bakhtiari
Hamid Reza Mohammadi
Mohsen Bapiri

from Rajai Shahr Prison:

Asad Shaghaghi
Amir Heshmat Saran
Vallyollah Faiz Mahdavi
Mehrdad Lohrasebi
Jafar Eghdami



From Mazandaran prison :

Reza Ashrafpour
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: Political prisoners condemn Shirin Ebadi Reply with quote

Political prisoners condemn Shirin Ebadi
http://www.iranpressnews.com/source/011011.htm

We would like to remind Ms. Ebadi, who won the Nobel Peace Prize two years ago, of a few things. Though we were all so proud that an Iranian woman won that distinguished prize, we are nonetheless, forced to point out her apathy. Her newfound financial and political influence, has afforded her the distinction to champion and openly talk about the immeasurable human rights violations in the Islamic Republic of Iran; after all she has become recognized by international human rights organizations around the world as an authority on such issues.

Before her winning the award however, she was a lawyer who had spent 25 days in prison and had been unconditionally released after signing a letter, repenting for her charges; therefore no one expected anything from her. However, now, given all the above-mentioned reasons one would hope and expect more from her. As of late however, her interviews, speeches, articles and reports have taken on a very conservative tone. In recent days as well, on the occasion of the execution of political prisoner, Hodjat Zamani, she not only did not condemn the execution, she simply ignored it.

We are certain that she does not truthfully report any of the atrocities committed by the Islamic regime to western leaders and various human rights establishments who are in contact with her. This human rights celebrity has even declined to mention some of her own closest friends [for whom we have a great deal of respect], some of whom have been in prison for 27 years; she has never so much as spoken of or even defended the brave imprisoned students and political activists who have spent years in these nightmarish prisons of the Islamic regime, under the most horrifying mental and physical tortures. It has also just come to our attention that she does not even keep up with the status of the prisons or the statistics of the political prisoners.

Isn't this preferential treatment and discrimination? Isn't she meant to be defending all political prisoners? Why should western leaders and international human rights establishments be so coaxed by such shady and bogus individuals? Is this all there is to her claim on equality and defense of human rights? It is indeed a sad day when the world leaders are taken in by such underhanded lobbyists and sleazy influence peddlers.

Please help us by sending our letter of complaint to the various heads of states and international human rights organizations and please appeal to them, on our behalf, in exposing her willful neglect and discrimination against us all, who clung, with hopes for freedom to her.

We will shortly present a detailed and explicit profile on Ms. Ebadi that will summarize her exploitations [on behalf of the Islamic regime] and her complete disinterest and apathy to the vital mission, as a defender of human rights, meaning the defense of all people, for which she received the renowned award.

Signatories are imprisoned student leaders and various activists:

1. Manouchehr Mohammadi (Evin Prison)

2. Akbar Mohammadi (Evin Prison)

3. Khaled Hardani (Evin Prison)

4. Mostafa Jowkar (Evin Prison)

5. Behnam Vafo-Seresht (Evin Prison)

6. Hashem Shanian (Evin Prison)

7. Haydar-Qoli Soltani (Evin Prison)

8. Hodjat Bakhtiari (Evin Prison)

9. Hamid-Reza Mohammadi

10. Mohsen Bawpeeri (Evin Prison)

11. Asad Shaghaghi (Rejaiishahr)

12. Amir-Heshmat Saran (Rejaiishahr)

13. Valiollah Fayz-Mahdavi

14. Mehrdad Lohrasbi (Rejaiishahr)

15. Jafa Eghdomi (Rejaiishahr)

16. Reza Ashrafpour (Mazandaron detention center)
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