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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: God of War Reply with quote

The human mind always wants answers. It searches as best it can and when it cannot find complete answers, it fills in the gaps with its own answers. Much of those gaps have been filled with made up concepts. The further we go back in history, the larger the gaps, and the more prevalent are the imaginary substitutions.

Not having an answer is not satisfying, and the mind will not rest until that need is satisfied. In ancient times as well as the present, much of that need is met by inventing supernatural entities, multiple Gods, or a single God.

No culture has been without its God or Gods. Many of those Gods are similar, as the world of the various humans is similar, while many of those Gods are different, as the various experiences and obstacles of certain humans are unique.

We therefore see that each culture has its own deities, while sharing certain deities with other cultures. What are the common experiences of most humans? The sun, rain and crops, fertility, festivity, death, and of course….war.

Yes, the God of War is one of the most prominent and repeated motifs across various cultures. The Norse called him Odin, the Hindu called him Indra, the Iranian Kassites called him Burijas, the Romans called him Mars, and the Greeks called him Ares. All of those Gods are a part of ancient mythology, and no longer taken seriously. All except one: Allah, the Bedouin God of War.

In truth, he was never known to the Arabs as the God of War. This is only a logical conclusion after closer examination of Allah. The then contemporary connotation that Allah carried with him around the time of Mohammad was the Moon God. He was one of almost 360 Gods that the Arabs worshiped at the time. This Moon God is the reason why the Taazi calendar is based on the lunar calendar, and the reason behind the moon crescent’s symbolism of Islam.

Allah started out as one of a multitude of pagan Arabic Gods. As Mohammad developed Islam, Allah needed to out-compete his rivals. The alternative Gods were suppressed as pagan, and the worship of idols was similarly suppressed. This is another reason why idolatry and polytheism were so forcefully censored by Islam’s early days: to demolish the competition.

The Moon God grew more powerful in the hands of his main advocate, Mohammad. Ideological power is often followed by physical and military power. To spread the word of God requires at times powerful methods of persuasion. Of course, the God of War wields the most powerful of all persuasive methods.

Subsequently, the Moon God slowly developed into the Taazi God of War within the framework of the Quran and at the hands of Mohammad. That he is the God of War is evident within the Quran as well as the works of Tabari, Bukhari, and other historical documents. That he is the God of War is evident within the historical background of the spread of early Islam. That he is the God of War is evident within the context of modern day Jihad, Islamic terrorism, and the Mujahedin –warriors of God.

The zeal with which Allah calls for violence, punishment, holy war, and the goal to overwhelm the world until no other religion exists but Islam makes him unmistakably the God of War.

So call him what you will; it matters not. He is the same entity; the same God. He spoke Greek to the Greeks, carried a Hoplon, and was named Ares once. He now speaks Arabic to the Taazis, carries a curved blade, and is named Allah.

As one walks through the valley of the shadow of darkness, one may feel the eerie feeling of being accompanied by an unwelcome presence. That presence is Mars, Odin, Ares, Allah, or whatever else one may wish to call him…
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moon crescent’s symbolism of Islam.

Not quite true.
The moon stems from the turkish, who used to worship the sun and moon and stars before they were tazi-ised. Because the turkish conquered pretty much everywhere in the islamic world, the cresent moon and star is used.
Or at least that's why the Turkish flag's as it is ...

Allah carried with him around the time of Mohammad was the Moon God.

Also not quite true.
Allah was the name of the ancient Arabian King of the Gods, like Zeus, of Jupiter (I think - I may be wrong)

Another thing - I generally prefer lunar calendar - its better placed for women (28 days in a month - 28 days in a menstrual cycle). With a lunar calendar, a woman can just go up to her boss and say: "I'd like the 12th - 16th off every month for my periods" etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those that doubt the background of Allah, the Moon God:


Allah, the Moon God

The Archeology of The Middle East

The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.

Archaeologists have uncovered temples to the Moon-god throughout the Middle East. From the mountains of Turkey to the banks of the Nile, the most wide-spread religion of the ancient world was the worship of the Moon-god. In the first literate civilization, the Sumerians have left us thousands of clay tablets in which they described their religious beliefs. As demonstrated by Sjoberg and Hall, the ancient Sumerians worshipped a Moon-god who was called many different names. The most popular names were Nanna, Suen and Asimbabbar. His symbol was the crescent moon. Given the amount of artifacts concerning the worship of this Moon-god, it is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria. The cult of the Moon-god was the most popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Akkadians took the word Suen and transformed it into the word Sin as their favorite name for the Moon-god. As Prof. Potts pointed out, "Sin is a name essentially Sumerian in origin which had been borrowed by the Semites."

In ancient Syria and Canna, the Moon-god Sin was usually represented by the moon in its crescent phase. At times the full moon was placed inside the crescent moon to emphasize all the phases of the moon. The sun-goddess was the wife of Sin and the stars were their daughters. For example, Istar was a daughter of Sin. Sacrifices to the Moon-god are described in the Pas Shamra texts. In the Ugaritic texts, the Moon-god was sometimes called Kusuh. In Persia, as well as in Egypt, the Moon-god is depicted on wall murals and on the heads of statues. He was the Judge of men and gods. The Old Testament constantly rebuked the worship of the Moon-god (see: Deut. 4:19;17:3; II Kngs. 21:3,5; 23:5; Jer. 8:2; 19:13; Zeph. 1:5, etc.) When Israel fell into idolatry, it was usually the cult of the Moon-god. As a matter of fact, everywhere in the ancient world, the symbol of the crescent moon can be found on seal impressions, steles, pottery, amulets, clay tablets, cylinders, weights, earrings, necklaces, wall murals, etc. In Tell-el-Obeid, a copper calf was found with a crescent moon on its forehead. An idol with the body of a bull and the head of man has a crescent moon inlaid on its forehead with shells. In Ur, the Stela of Ur-Nammu has the crescent symbol placed at the top of the register of gods because the Moon-god was the head of the gods. Even bread was baked in the form of a crescent as an act of devotion to the Moon-god. The Ur of the Chaldees was so devoted to the Moon-god that it was sometimes called Nannar in tablets from that time period.

A temple of the Moon-god has been excavated in Ur by Sir Leonard Woolley. He dug up many examples of moon worship in Ur and these are displayed in the British Museum to this day. Harran was likewise noted for its devotion to the Moon-god. In the 1950's a major temple to the Moon-god was excavated at Hazer in Palestine. Two idols of the moon god were found. Each was a stature of a man sitting upon a throne with a crescent moon carved on his chest . The accompanying inscriptions make it clear that these were idols of the Moon-god. Several smaller statues were also found which were identified by their inscriptions as the "daughters" of the Moon-god. What about Arabia? As pointed out by Prof. Coon, "Muslims are notoriously loath to preserve traditions of earlier paganism and like to garble what pre-Islamic history they permit to survive in anachronistic terms."

During the nineteenth century, Amaud, Halevy and Glaser went to Southern Arabia and dug up thousands of Sabean, Minaean, and Qatabanian inscriptions which were subsequently translated. In the 1940's, the archeologists G. Caton Thompson and Carleton S. Coon made some amazing discoveries in Arabia. During the 1950's, Wendell Phillips, W.F. Albright, Richard Bower and others excavated sites at Qataban, Timna, and Marib (the ancient capital of Sheba). Thousands of inscriptions from walls and rocks in Northern Arabia have also been collected. Reliefs and votive bowls used in worship of the "daughters of Allah" have also been discovered. The three daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat are sometimes depicted together with Allah the Moon-god represented by a crescent moon above them. The archeological evidence demonstrates that the dominant religion of Arabia was the cult of the Moon-god.

In Old Testament times, Nabonidus (555-539 BC), the last king of Babylon, built Tayma, Arabia as a center of Moon-god worship. Segall stated, "South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations." Many scholars have also noticed that the Moon-god's name "Sin" is a part of such Arabic words as "Sinai," the "wilderness of Sin," etc. When the popularity of the Moon-god waned elsewhere, the Arabs remained true to their conviction that the Moon-god was the greatest of all gods. While they worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca, the Moon-god was the chief deity. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the Moon-god.

This is what made it the most sacred site of Arabian paganism. In 1944, G. Caton Thompson revealed in her book, The Tombs and Moon Temple of Hureidha, that she had uncovered a temple of the Moon-god in southern Arabia. The symbols of the crescent moon and no less than twenty-one inscriptions with the name Sin were found in this temple. An idol which may be the Moon-god himself was also discovered. This was later confirmed by other well-known archeologists.

The evidence reveals that the temple of the Moon-god was active even in the Christian era. Evidence gathered from both North and South Arabia demonstrate that Moon-god worship was clearly active even in Muhammad's day and was still the dominant cult. According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the Moon-god was Sin, his title was al-ilah, i.e. "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods. As Coon pointed out, "The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God." The Moon-god was called al-ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times. The pagan Arabs even used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle had Allah as part of their names.

The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Prof. Coon goes on to say, "Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being."

This fact answers the questions, "Why is Allah never defined in the Qur'an? Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?" Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.

In effect he said, "Look, you already believe that the Moon-god Allah is the greatest of all gods. All I want you to do is to accept that the idea that he is the only god. I am not taking away the Allah you already worship. I am only taking away his wife and his daughters and all the other gods." This is seen from the fact that the first point of the Muslim creed is not, "Allah is great" but "Allah is the greatest," i.e., he is the greatest among the gods. Why would Muhammad say that Allah is the "greatest" except in a polytheistic context? The Arabic word is used to contrast the greater from the lesser. That this is true is seen from the fact that the pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped. This "Allah" was the Moon-god according to the archeological evidence. Muhammad thus attempted to have it both ways. To the pagans, he said that he still believed in the Moon-god Allah. To the Jews and the Christians, he said that Allah was their God too. But both the Jews and the Christians knew better and that is why they rejected his god Allah as a false god.

Al-Kindi, one of the early Christian apologists against Islam, pointed out that Islam and its god Allah did not come from the Bible but from the paganism of the Sabeans. They did not worship the God of the Bible but the Moon-god and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat. Dr. Newman concludes his study of the early Christian-Muslim debates by stating, "Islam proved itself to be...a separate and antagonistic religion which had sprung up from idolatry." Islamic scholar Caesar Farah concluded "There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews." The Arabs worshipped the Moon-god as a supreme deity. But this was not biblical monotheism. While the Moon-god was greater than all other gods and goddesses, this was still a polytheistic pantheon of deities. Now that we have the actual idols of the Moon-god, it is no longer possible to avoid the fact that Allah was a pagan god in pre-Islamic times. Is it any wonder then that the symbol of Islam is the crescent moon? That a crescent moon sits on top of their mosques and minarets? That a crescent moon is found on the flags of Islamic nations? That the Muslims fast during the month which begins and ends with the appearance of the crescent moon in the sky?


The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.
The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.
I am Dariush the Great King, King of Kings, King of countries containing all kinds of men, King in this great earth far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenian, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the word "summary" mean nothing on this forum?

I believe wikipedia is less biased than "bible believers" so heres the wiki on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah, although I will read your bible site when I have time

The name Allāh was used in pre-Islamic times by Pagans within the Arabian peninsula to signify the supreme creator.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. What does “summary” mean to you?

2. It is not MY Bible site. I am not a Christian. However, I do read sources even though they are not of my “religion.” What matters more is the information, and less the person who wrote it. Look at the data, not the presenter. The archaeological and historical information presented by them is cohesive.

3. I am quite aware of Wikipedia. Pay attention to the way that Wiki has been formed and presented. It is not a historical text presented solely by historians and invulnerable to prejudice or error. In fact, anyone can sign on and add whatever information they want to Wiki. It is a glorified blog, and nothing more.

4. Nothing in that Wiki site refutes the article I posted. On the contrary, it reinforces it. Your own quote is in agreement with the claim that “Allah” was the name of a pagan God pre-dating Islam, and part of a polytheistic pantheon.

The name Allāh was used in pre-Islamic times by Pagans within the Arabian peninsula to signify the supreme creator. Pre-Islamic Jews referred to their supreme creator as Adonai or Elohim. The pagan Arabs recognized "Allāh" as the supreme God in their pantheon; along with Allah, however, the pre-Islamic Arabs believed in a host of other gods, such as Hubal and 'daughters of Allāh' (the three daughters associated were al-Lāt, al-`Uzzah, and Manah) (Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, "The Facts on File", ed. Anthony Mercatante, New York, 1983, I:61).

5. It’s okay to sometimes just listen and not respond. You don’t feel the need to respond to every post in here just for the sake of responding, do you?

6. I’ve watched as you pranced around in this forum, praising your Allah, which is okay. I’ve watched as you threw a temper tantrum, insulted Amil Imani with profanities, then retracted your post. I’ve kept quiet and allowed you to frolic, and even got a smile or two because of your immaturity. Now you want to get cute with the word “summary.” Get cute all you want, but your cuteness will be tolerated only for so long. After that, my laughing stops.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, the summary thing was a joke ... there was no need to take it seriously ......

and it may be partly due to the fact that long posts kinda scare me a little ...

As for arab polytheism .. well yes I knew about that from the start ... sorry if I didnt make it clear

I retracted the profanities directed at amil because i was truly sorry about having posted them. when i came here i was going through the level 1 + 3 phase (see my post on terrorism). However thanks to mostly Cyrizian and Amil's posts I got rid of my religious beliefs and am now completing level 2.

as for this cuteness ... well sorry about that.
and as for the immaturity - well I am only 16 ...
if i was acting even too immature for that then i apologise for it. tell me what to correct and ill correct it.

and i did read the site you linked you me to btw. it was quite interesting. thanks for the evidence saying that he was a moon god.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


It takes a more mature person to admit one’s own initial faults and grow as a result of it than anyone else can ever claim to be.

You actually know much more at your age than I ever did when I was 16.

I did not expect the kind of reply you gave to my criticism of you. You have surprised me by the level of maturity you now show, and I have found a new respect for the person you are.

We may differ on religious ideology, but that’s okay. I will continue to undermine islam, and you will continue to uphold it. That’s also okay.

Though you joined 2 months ago, I never got a chance to officially welcome you. I’ll now take this opportunity to offer my sincere welcome to you…

I hope we can all continue to grow as you have done.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some background information behind the allegation that Allah is the God of War. This is just the Islamic history of the 7th Century. Feel free to browse through the remainder of the centuries at the following site. I listed the 7th because it is the most relevant to Iranian history.


7th Century (600-699) C.E.

605: The Holy Prophet arbitrates in a dispute among the Quraish about the placing of the Black Stone in the Kaaba.
610: The first revelation in the cave at Mt. Hira. The Holy Prophet is commissioned as the Messenger of God.
613: Declaration at Mt. Sara inviting the general public to Islam.
614: Invitation to the Hashimites to accept Islam.
615: Persecution of the Muslims by the Quraish. A party of Muslims leaves for Abyssinia.
616: Second Hijrah to Abysinnia.
617: Social boycott of the Hashimites and the Holy Prophet by the Quraish. The Hashimites are shut up in a glen outside Makkah.
619: Lifting of the boycott. Deaths of Abu Talib and Hadrat Khadija. Year of sorrow.
620: Journey to Taif. Ascension to the heavens.
621: First pledge at Aqaba.
622: Second pledge at Aqaba. The Holy Prophet and the Muslims migrate to Yathrib.
623: Nakhla expedition.
624: Battle of Badr. Expulsion of the Bani Qainuqa Jews from Madina.
625: Battle of Uhud. Massacre of 70 Muslims at Bir Mauna. Expulsion of Banu Nadir Jews from Madina. Second expedition of Badr.
626: Expedition of Banu Mustaliq.
627: Battle of the Trench. Expulsion of Banu Quraiza Jews.

628: Truce of Hudaibiya. Expedition to Khyber. The Holy Prophet addresses letters to various heads of states.
629: The Holy Prophet performs the pilgrimage at Makkah. Expedition to Muta (Romans).
630: Conquest of Makkah. Battles of Hunsin, Auras, and Taif.
631: Expedition to Tabuk. Year of Deputations.

632: Farewell pilgrimage at Makkah.
632: Death of the Holy Prophet. Election of Hadrat Abu Bakr as the Caliph. Usamah leads expedition to Syria. Battles of Zu Qissa and Abraq. Battles of Buzakha, Zafar and Naqra. Campaigns against Bani Tamim and Musailima, the Liar.
633: Campaigns in Bahrain, Oman, Mahrah Yemen, and Hadramaut. Raids in Iraq. Battles of Kazima, Mazar, Walaja, Ulleis, Hirah, Anbar, Ein at tamr, Daumatul Jandal and Firaz.
634: Battles of Basra, Damascus and Ajnadin. Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph. Battles of Namaraq and Saqatia.
635: Battle of Bridge. Battle of Buwaib. Conquest of Damascus. Battle of Fahl.
636: Battle of Yermuk. Battle of Qadsiyia. Conquest of Madain.
637: Conquest of Syria. Fall of Jerusalem. Battle of Jalula.
638: Conquest of Jazirah.
639: Conquest of Khuizistan. Advance into Egypt.
640: Capture of the post of Caesaria in Syria. Conquest of Shustar and Jande Sabur in Persia. Battle of Babylon in Egypt.
641: Battle of Nihawand. Conquest Of Alexandria in Egypt.
642: Battle of Rayy in Persia. Conquest of Egypt. Foundation of Fustat.
643: Conquest of Azarbaijan and Tabaristan (Russia).
644: Conquest of Fars, Kerman, Sistan, Mekran and Kharan.Martyrdom of Hadrat Umar. Hadrat Othman becomes the Caliph.
645: Campaigns in Fats.
646: Campaigns in Khurasan, Armeain and Asia Minor.
647: Campaigns in North Africa. Conquest of the island of Cypress.
648: Campaigns against the Byzantines.
651: Naval battle of the Masts against the Byzantines.

652: Discontentment and disaffection against the rule of Hadrat Othman.
656: Martyrdom of Hadrat Othman. Hadrat Ali becomes the Caliph. Battle of the Camel.
657: Hadrat Ali shifts the capital from Madina to Kufa. Battle of Siffin. Arbitration proceedings at Daumaut ul Jandal.
658: Battle of Nahrawan.
659: Conquest of Egypt by Mu'awiyah.
660: Hadrat Ali recaptures Hijaz and Yemen from Mu'awiyah
. Mu'awiyah declares himself as the Caliph at Damascus.
661: Martyrdom of Hadrat Ali. Accession of Hadrat Hasan and his abdication. Mu'awiyah becomes the sole Caliph.
662: Khawarij revolts.
666: Raid of Sicily.
670: Advance in North Africa. Uqba b Nafe founds the town of Qairowan in Tunisia. Conquest of Kabul.
672: Capture of the island of Rhodes. Campaigns in Khurasan.
674: The Muslims cross the Oxus. Bukhara becomes a vassal state.
677: Occupation of Sarnarkand and Tirmiz. Siege of Constantinople.

680: Death of Muawiyah. Accession of Yazid. Tragedy of Kerbala and martyrdom of Hadrat Hussain.
682: In North Africa Uqba b Nafe marches to the Atlantic, is ambushed and killed at Biskra. The Muslims evacuate Qairowan and withdraw to Burqa.
683: Death of Yazid. Accession of Mu'awiyah II.
684: Abdullah b Zubair declares himself aS the Caliph at'Makkah. Marwan I becomes the Caliph' at Damascus. Battle of Marj Rahat.
685: Death of Marwan I. Abdul Malik becomes the Caliph at Damascus. Battle of Ain ul Wada.
686: Mukhtar declares himself as the Caliph at Kufa.
687: Battle of Kufa between the forces of Mukhtar and Abdullah b Zubair. Mukhtar killed.
691: Battle of Deir ul Jaliq. Kufa falls to Abdul Malik.
692: The fall of Makkah. Death of Abdullah b Zubair. Abdul Malik becomes the sole Caliph.
695: Khawarij revolts in Jazira and Ahwaz. Battle of the Karun. Campaigns against Kahina in North Africa. The' Muslims once again withdraw to Barqa. The Muslims advance in Transoxiana and occupy Kish.

And the God of War marches on….
I am Dariush the Great King, King of Kings, King of countries containing all kinds of men, King in this great earth far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenian, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@anusiya: Being 16 is no excuse for immaturity, just as being 18 would not be...

The truth is that you are seeing holes being poked into your religion, and are struggling, because you've been raised with it and you think that it has to be right, try reading some books, such as: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0884198847/026-7287311-8235621?v=glance&n=266239 (before you go berserk, that book is writen by someone who was a muslim, but has rejected his faith)

or if you don't want to read that, how about: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0879759844/026-7287311-8235621?v=glance&n=266239
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Rhuan: Check your PM Box.
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