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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: BP Oil, mother of all troubles for the World and FREE Iran Reply with quote

Oil, mother of all troubles

After the production of oil as a cheaper and commercial source for producing light started by drilling wells in North America during 1800’s, oil quickly grew to become one of the most important issues in the internal affairs of most nations as well as international relations. Later, discovery of electric power to produce light in United States forced the oil industry to look for other areas of consumption while drive for finding new oil resources had taken over the whole nation. Invention of gas burning engine to run a vehicle solved the most important problem which oil industry was facing in its toddler years and made it possible for this industry to continue growing in more rapid manner and generate more profit for the owners. This meant heavy competition and rivalry in the capitalist world.

As newer inventions and discoveries were introduced, oil gradually turned into the most important source of energy for all needs of societies. From producers of electricity to transportation and aviation, farming and other industries, all needed oil. Transportation industry grew immensely based on the needs and in parallel to the oil industries and this matter expanded relations between the nations to a great degree. Industrial growth in pioneer nations of the west went into full gear and need for new markets and resources created intense competitions. Control of the sources of energy in the world became a vital interest for those nations which saw that as an essential component to their progress and prosperity and also to become a dominant global power.

About half a century after oil became preferred source of energy to produce light, security and progress of United States and many European nations had become heavily dependent on it. The need for new resources dragged American companies and government with their immense financial power into the areas which were part of old colonialist’s domains that reluctantly conceded to share its region of influence with greater power. Other western nations like France and Germany were left behind in the race for oil while the need for more energy resources was becoming a matter of great concern to Germans for inevitable competition with growing economy of British Empire. In fact, in both WWI and WWII, oil became the biggest advantage point of allied nations against Germany which was desperate for new energy resources to accommodate its progress.

Western nations which were involved in colonizing non-European territories during previous decades and centuries, were in fact the initial beneficiaries of expansion in the business of oil throughout the world. During this period, many concessions for exploration activities to find oil were obtained from governments in Asian, African and South American continents. In some cases, investments seemed very risky in the beginning but later, they brought huge fortunes for the hasty investors to make them greedier even further. Serious drive for finding new oil fields as a source of energy for the world and as good source for gaining vast and fast wealth for some, and heavy competition between rival companies sometimes caused conflicts over territories of influence. This matter was later resolved with an “informal” agreement between the oil companies which was observed by all very closely in order to respect each other’s boundary and avoid disputes. This agreement was known to oil companies with the name of “As-Is” which helped them to regulate everything related to oil industry, from pricing to rate of production and establishment of new plants, for a long time.

While exploration activities were continuing and the amount of proven oil reserves were increasing every day, oil production was also bringing unexpected wealth to some of the poorest nations in the world including those in the Middle East and Persian Gulf region to make their economy totally dependent on it. This wealth of course was never comparable to enormous gains that oil companies were making of these sources of oil which were in the territories of other nations. The monopoly over the market and transportation of oil provided oil companies with enormous gains and gave them a huge leverage against governments of oil producing nations which had previously signed unfair concessions in desperate situations.

From the beginning, oil related issues and unjust relation between providers of oil industry’s technology and oil transportation from one side and oil producing nations from another side, had become a major contributor to many open or hidden conflicts between people, governments, and corporations. A new trend in relations between nations and oil companies started after strike and revolt of Russian oil workers in early 1900’s which resulted in destruction of large areas of oil production and refining facilities under leadership of Stalin and eventually ejecting Rothschild out of Russia after losing a great portion of his investment. This issue raised a lot of concerns among private investors and they started looking for guarantees for their investments from their own governments after that. This matter dragged some western governments practically into business of oil as active partners with wealthy investors. Confrontation between British and France over Iraq’s oil after WWI in which they were allied against Germany and Ottoman Empire, was an indication that oil had become a very serious issue for all western governments.

Another revolution and nationalization oil industries in Mexico a couple of decades after Russian revolution, made it clear that a clash between interests of consumers with producer nations was inevitable. At the same time oil had turned into the lifeline for security of progressive nations while, in some cases, the resources in their own territories had decreased greatly as a result of overconsumption or had become too expensive to exploit compared to cheaper oil which was available in abundance from overseas.

Discovery of vast oil resources in the countries around Persian Gulf by American capitalists which had received generous concessions from rulers in Bahrain, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia turned this region into an important center for production of oil that was desperately needed by western world. From the time that oil started flowing from Iran in 1911 to this day which over 25% of energy needs of the world is supplied from Persian Gulf area, this region has seen many political turbulences in which, oil has always played an important role.

For decades before discovery of oil, British Empire had tried to use Iran and Persian Gulf as a base for protecting their interests in Indian subcontinent against Russians who considered reaching the Persian Gulf waters an historical mission for themselves to fulfill the wishes of their king Peter I . Communist Revolution changed the expansionist attitude of Russians for a short period of time when British took the opportunity to expand their influence in the region but Russians came back soon and this time they had a revolution with a lot of beautiful slogans to export.

Rapid increase in consumption of oil to support newer generations of transportation vehicles and war machines, which ran faster and better, made Persian Gulf region and other oil rich areas in the world a matter of greater interest for all powerful nations. After WW I, when Winston Churchill ordered all British Navy to switch from burning solid fuel to oil based fuel, in fact he linked the security of his nation to the oil which was produced far away from home by Anglo-Iranian oil company.

By mid 1930’s economic growth of all nations was heavily dependent on oil for fueling their modern industries and mobility to distribute their goods throughout the world with faster speed. Great Britain and USA, which had vast resources of cheap oil in their reach, had huge advantages over others like France and Germany that needed to buy it from them. Production of fuel from other sources through synthetic process would cost much more and put a big burden on any nation’s economy to make competition a lot harder. Once again, trouble was brewing in Europe but this time oil had played a big role in it on the side of need for newer markets to support the economic growth.

During WW II, oil proved to be of the highest strategic value to both sides and when it ended, new measures were taken by both British and American governments in order to deal with the most important issue facing western nations: OIL. A lot of work needed to be done after deliberate destruction of oil wells and production facilities in Persian Gulf region and Indochina which were carried in order to deny access to Germans and Japanese in case if they got there. On top of that, new agreements were to be reached between the oil companies and also between British and US governments in order to impose their control over production and pricing of this valuable commodity to avoid loss of profit while maintaining control over the access to energy sources. A new era had started in the world affairs and the race for domination of energy resources became a high priority in the agendas of superpowers in order to impose their authority over the world.

Start of cold war immediately after WW II was ended, brought the importance of oil as main source of world’s energy into spot light. British government was already involved in the oil business directly through Anglo-Iranian Oil company, which later changed to British Petroleum. US government was restricted by laws and could not enter any business directly but threw its full support behind the oil companies against British and others to ensure the security of their own share of resources. In fact, US government had become a counselor for American oil companies and acted as their protector in international disputes for decades to come. US government documents show that, during 1960’s and 1970’s, very deep issues had arisen between American and Iranian governments resulting in exchange of threats over the oil dispute between Iran and Oil Consortium in which seven American companies had a big share. This was while American government denied having any control over oil companies and at the same time encouraging Iranian government to yield to the demands by Oil Consortium and settle for what they offered in order to avoid bitterness in relations with US and British governments.

During 1980’s, a war between Iran and Iraq broke out which dragged the superpowers into the region. During that war, American government provided indirect intelligence assistance and sold weapons to both sides while reluctantly raising US flags over Kuwaiti oil ships for their protection. In fact, US government did not respond to Kuwaiti government’s requests until they raised USSR flags over three of their ships so that Iranian and Iraqi forces do not target them. Later on, in 1990’s Iraq attacked Kuwait and destroyed almost all their oil production facilities which provided oil companies with new opportunities and imposed incredible damages on Kuwaitis. The attack by Iraqis on Kuwait happened shortly after James Baker, the secretary of state during G. Bush sr., stated that Kuwait did not have a defense pact with United States. About a month earlier, American Ambassador to Iraq told a reporter that US government did not have any issue with Iraq if they tried to resolve their border disputes with Kuwait. This was while more than a hundred thousand of Iraqi forces were positioned near Kuwaiti borders according to the news reports of that time.

Later on, under UN mandate, US forces led a military operation to rid Kuwait of Iraqi forces and impose heavy damages on Iraqis. Saddam never expected that Americans who had helped him from the beginning of his career as an assassin and CIA agent, turn on him. Saddam fell and a new government with greater influence from Iraqi Shiite sect and close ties with Islamic government of Iran replaced him. As a consequence of all these events, American government could establish a permanent base in the region to enforce the security of flow of oil to the free world. At the same time, the three oil rich nations of UAE, Kuwait and Saudi purchased total worth of one third of all conventional military products of the whole world during 8 years from the attack of Iraqis on Kuwait. And the story goes on…

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a short clip on "Blood and Oil"


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During early 1970's, Arab nations among oil producing countries decided to impose an oil embargo against western nations for their support of Israel in the war against Arabs. This decision came a day after OPEC decided to increase the oil price by 17% for partial matching with the high prices of manufactured goods which were imported from those nations and nullify the effect of unjustified inflation rates in those countries on oil producing nations. In those years, I used to work in NIPC (National Iranian Petrochemical Company) which was a young organization created and operated by Iranian government to enter the nation into this amazing industrial field. The place that I used to work at, was an industrial complex which was constructed by American manufactureres under an agreement that was signed with Du Pont industries in mid 1960's but it costed about 80% more than predicted budget when it was finished about 4 years later because of the wild increase in the prices of the parts which were being purchased from different western nations. This was just a minor example of how westerners transfered their economic problems to others while always objecting to slightest price increase on oil or other materials that they imported from other countries.

Mr. Ardeshir Zahedi who was Iranian ambassador to US in mid 1970's, participated in a TV interview program to provide the views of Iranian government on the issue of oil price which had sparked a lot of resentments among western people as unjust and unfair action by irresponsible oil producing nations (including Iran). In this interview, Mr. Zahedi drew a clear picture on the source of the problem which was in western nations reckless economy that was driven by greed, unfair competitions and self centred mentality. Here is part of that interview:

Q: Mr. Ambassador, is there to be no end to these oil-price increase? Do Iran and other producers intend to push the cost higher and higher?

A: That depends on a number of things, but most important of all is the problem of worldwide inflation. If that continues at the present rate, then Iran and other in OPEC [Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries] must demand higher prices for their oil. How else can we afford to buy things we need?
Here is Great Britain with an inflation rate of around 26 percent. In Israel, it is 39 percent. In West Germany - from whom Iran buys many things – it is about 6 percent. Here in the United States of America, you have between 17 and 18 percent.

Q: Sir, the U.S. inflation rate peaked at 12.2 percent in December 1974 and at latest report was 7.3 percent.

A: Be that as it may, we know in Iran what we have had to pay for many commodities that we buy from you and others to whom we sell our oil.
I have figures on raw sugar. In 1966 it was at $55 a ton. It is now around $935 to $1000 a ton, and three month ago we had to pay $1650. Here is paper – in 1966 at 234.64 a ton, and 1974 up to $499. And here you have vegetable oil, increasing from $275 a ton to $732.
Here is Du Pont, a very famous company in the United States. Thirteen month ago we made an agreement with them involving 250 million dollars. Now they are asking us 450 million dollars-an increase of 200 million.
The Japanese, 11 month ago, made a contract with us involving 1 billion dollars. Today, they are asking 1.9 billion."

To add something interesting to above information, when we started producing sulphur (one of the products in the complex) in our newly established petrochemical plants, the universal sulphur prices dropped to the point that Iranian newly established company was bankrupt even before it started the production! Why? Because price of sulphur was controled by Americans in their trade markets and we could not do anything about it at that time. This is while our sulphur production was mostly for internal use in other units of our industrial complex which started working shortly afterwards, and we did not buy (did not even need) any sulphur of that amount from other countries!

Historical data for inflation in the two nations of United States and United Kingdom indicate that economies of those countries have been very much dependent on the cheap oil as a good source of wealth gathering and progress while inflation was increasing steadily at slower rate until the issue of oil price was taken over by the oil cartel of oil producing nations. OPEC was formed in 1960 from the founding nations of Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. It is interesting to know the price of oil in June 1960 was $2.85/barrel which was only $0.07 more than its price in the ending months of 1947! Oil price was set at $3.00 in August 1960 and remained the same until 1965 which was increased by $0.10 and then $0.05 every year until 1969. this means an increase of 0.016% on average per year compared to average inflation of about 2% in US and about 4% in UK for the same period of time! WTRG which is an American research group based in Texas, in their report in year 2008 wrote:

"Crude Oil prices ranged between $2.50 and $3.00 from 1948 through the end of the 1960s. The price oil rose from $2.50 in 1948 to about $3.00 in 1957. When viewed in 2006 dollars an entirely different story emerges with crude oil prices fluctuating between $17 - $18 during the same period. The apparent 20% price increase just kept up with inflation.
From 1958 to 1970 prices were stable at about $3.00 per barrel, but in real terms the price of crude oil declined from above $17 to below $14 per barrel. The decline in the price of crude when adjusted for inflation was amplified for the international producer in 1971 and 1972 by the weakness of the US dollar. "

It is important to note that except for a short period of time in 1957 that oil prices went up to $3.00, the price was always bellow $3.00 and sometimes even bellow $2.00 and by 1960, it still remained bellow $3.00 at $2.85. Based on this, in fact the 20% price increase which is mentioned in the paragraph quoted from WTRG was just a glitch that lasted only for a very short period of time while the inflation in western nations steadily increased at a much higher rate. In another part of same report from WTRG we read:

"Throughout the post war period exporting countries found increasing demand for their crude oil but a 40% decline in the purchasing power of a barrel of oil. In March 1971, the balance of power shifted. That month the Texas Railroad Commission set proration at 100 percent for the first time. This meant that Texas producers were no longer limited in the amount of oil that they could produce. More importantly, it meant that the power to control crude oil prices shifted from the United States (Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana) to OPEC. Another way to say it is that there was no more spare capacity and therefore no tool to put an upper limit on prices. A little over two years later OPEC would, through the unintended consequence of war, get a glimpse at the extent of its power to influence prices."

Interesting chart from WTRG indicates how oil prices have been in constant decline based on 2006 US dollar value

Oil prices and different events from 2001-2005 calculated based on 2006 US dollar value

This raises an important question that if oil price increase kept up with inflation then how did oil producing countries experienced "40% decline in purchasing power" for their crude oil? In an article about "Oil: A Driving Force in the U.S. Economy" in Swift Energy Company website we read:

"By 1973, U.S. oil production entered into an irreversible decline and virtually all of the world’s spare production capacity was in the Middle East. Emboldened by this shift in power, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) sought to control oil prices by restricting its oil production. Later in the year, the Arab Oil Embargo was enacted. Oil prices soared, creating a ripple effect throughout the U.S. economy. Inflation rose and the stock market plummeted 48% from 1972 to 1974 in inflation-adjusted terms. A similar situation occurred in 1979 when the Shah of Iran was ousted, with the resulting high oil prices causing inflation to soar again."


As a side note, it is interesting to know that this company started its activities in 1979 right after Shah's government was ousted in Iran. This calls for a closer look at statistics of inflation in US and UK as two major parties in oil related issues all over the world but before that let's take a look at some other parts of Mr. Zahedi's interview with American media:

"Q: The report shows that a barrel of oil sold by OPEC now buys nearly three times as much in terms of commodities and more than four times in manufactured goods than in the base year of 1955. That is quite an advantage-

A: You do not have to buy the oil. Neither do the Europeans or Japanese. If you do not like the price, why do you not use other resources of energy? The answer, of courser, is that other sources such as coal and nuclear power are going to cost far more than the price of oil.
You are a free country. Your people should go out and invest their money in developing these other sources if you believe the price of our oil is too high. None of these other energy sources, we think, is going to cost less than a comparable price of $12 to $14 a barrel for oil.
Once our oil resources are exhausted, how much will you charge us for your oil or liquefied coal? Will you ask us what we think is a fair price?

Q: Is Iran prepared to reduce its oil production if that becomes necessary to maintain the current price of around %11.50 a barrel at the Persian Gulf?

A: There has been a drop in OPEC production, but that does not worry us too much. We would be happy to see the United States become self-sufficient in oil and other energy fuels. Iran is a leader among those who say that we must not continue to use up the world’s oil at such a rapid rate.
In the United States, you thought you had about 75 to 80 years of reserves. Now I have been told by geologists in your country that there is not more than 20 to 50 years of supply left. It is the same elsewhere. In Iran, we are producing nearly 5 million barrel a day, and our reserves are65 to 70 billion barrels. At that rate we have 30 years supply left. Even in Saudi Arabia, if production is increased to 10 million barrels a day, reserves would run out in 45 to 50 years.
We in Iran think that oil is too valuable to be burned up only as fuel. Here is a product from which you can make 70,000 different products-from which even greater revenues than current price of oil can be derived. Iran would like to see conserved for these uses through petrochemical production."

In the last question the interviewer is probably asking about $11.50 a barrel oil price (which was the price around the time of interview) otherwise it does not make sense. The claims made by interviewer in above portion is obviously in contradiction with confirmed facts which indicate substantial decline in purchasing power of the oil. In the next question, Mr. Zahedi addresses the relation of oil price and world inflation:

"Q: Does it worry you that the high cost of oil, a factor in present worldwide inflation, could possibly bankrupt some industrialized nations, which are your best customer?

A: I am grateful for that question. I will explain the realities of your inflation, which your politicians have led the public to believe is the fault of oil prices.
About one half of 1 percent of the inflation in the United States is caused by the increase in cost of petroleum. That is the figure that your economists have published. In the world, only 1.5 to 2 percent of inflation has been caused by higher oil prices, according to the figures published by some of your own leading economists as well as OPEC and international organizations.
Yet you Americans and the Europeans and Japanese want to blame it all on us. We are blamed because inflation has got out of hand. But look, you in the United States have devalued the dollar twice. Do you realize what that has done to our investments in your bank? In England, wage increases to the labor unions are enormous. These are some of the reasons why your economies are threatened.

Actually, you get our oil at reasonable prices, but you charge your people more than they should pay based on the cost of crude petroleum. Let’s say you pay 50 cents a gallon for gasoline just to take a round figure, though it is more. There are 42 gallons in a barrel of oil. Multiply that by 50 cents and you find American consumers are paying at least $21 per barrel, while we are charging your oil companies only $11.5 a barrel."

Here is the UK average inflation stats for the period of 1960-1976:
1976 >> 16.5%, 1975>> 24.2% ,1974 >>16.0%, 1973>> 9.2%,
1972 >>7.1%, 1971 >>9.4% , 1970>> 6.4%, 1969>> 5.4%,
1968 >>4.7%, 1967 >>2.5%, 1966 >>3.9%, 1965 >>4.8%
1964 >>3.3%, 1963 >>2.0%, 1962 >>4.3%, 1961 >>3.4%, 1960 >>1.0%

And following is the inflation stats for US from 1961-1972. Each row represents flactuation of inflation during the same year and the last column to the right indicates average inflation for the year:

1972 >> 3.27% 3.51% 3.50% 3.49% 3.23% 2.71% 2.95% 2.94% 3.19% 3.42% 3.67% 3.41% 3.27%
1971 >> 5.29% 5.00% 4.71% 4.16% 4.40% 4.64% 4.36% 4.62% 4.08% 3.81% 3.28% 3.27% 4.30%
1970 >> 6.18% 6.15% 5.82% 6.06% 6.04% 6.01% 5.98% 5.41% 5.66% 5.63% 5.60% 5.57% 5.84%
1969 >> 4.40% 4.68% 5.25% 5.52% 5.51% 5.48% 5.44% 5.71% 5.70% 5.67% 5.93% 6.20% 5.46%
1968 >> 3.65% 3.95% 3.94% 3.93% 3.92% 4.20% 4.49% 4.48% 4.46% 4.75% 4.73% 4.72% 4.27%
1967 >> 3.46% 2.81% 2.80% 2.48% 2.79% 2.78% 2.77% 2.45% 2.75% 2.43% 2.74% 3.04% 2.78%
1966 >> 1.92% 2.56% 2.56% 2.87% 2.87% 2.53% 2.85% 3.48% 3.48% 3.79% 3.79% 3.46% 3.01%
1965 >> 0.97% 0.97% 1.29% 1.62% 1.62% 1.94% 1.61% 1.94% 1.61% 1.93% 1.60% 1.92% 1.59%
1964 >> 1.64% 1.64% 1.31% 1.31% 1.31% 1.31% 1.30% 0.98% 1.30% 0.97% 1.30% 0.97% 1.28%
1963 >> 1.33% 1.00% 1.33% 0.99% 0.99% 1.32% 1.32% 1.32% 0.99% 1.32% 1.32% 1.64% 1.24%
1962 >> 0.67% 1.01% 1.01% 1.34% 1.34% 1.34% 1.00% 1.34% 1.33% 1.33% 1.33% 1.33% 1.20%
1961 >> 1.71% 1.36% 1.36% 1.02% 1.02% 0.68% 1.35% 1.01% 1.35% 0.67% 0.67% 0.67% 1.07%

More information is available from the links which will come at the end but not neccessary for the purpose of this article but for now and before moving on to political aspects of this issue, I like to mention a short comment from "inflationdata.com" about how the inflation is created:

"Price inflation is a result of "monetary inflation".
Or "monetary inflation" is the cause of "price inflation".
So what is "monetary inflation" and where does it come from?
"Monetary inflation" is basically the government figuratively cranking up the printing presses and increasing the money supply.
In the old days that was how we got inflation. The government would actually print more dollars. But today the government has much more advanced methods of increasing the money supply. Remember, "monetary inflation" is the "increase in the amount of currency in circulation". "

Same statistical resources indicate continuous rise in inflation (sometimes in a very rapid manner) in UK ans US until 1979-1980 which then inflation moves in a downward fashion to the point the currently we have around 3% inflation in US and around 4% in UK. and story continues.

some of the sources which have been used for this article:
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another short clip on the role of oil in recent history:


sorry! I had included the wrong clip and it is now corected.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Blood and oil documentary Reply with quote

Blood and oil is a documentary about the events in Middle East around the time of WW I in which the winners of the war found themselves in control of vast territories and drew some arbitrary lines on the map to create new nations in the region that became source of many conflicts till this very day. The documentary explains about how western nations successfully took different parts of Ottoman Empire out of the hands of Turks and divided them into regions of influence which later became major source to boost western economy with vast amounts of cheap oil. There are 22 different parts of this video available on youtube and I posted just a few short samples earlier. Viewing these clips, one may think of the chaotic days of the region which our country is located in, during its most crucial days of history that she survived while most of the region was in war and misery. This survival must have had a message for us but apparently we missed it not only then which exchange and spreading of information was very hard but even now that all information is at our fingertips!

In my view, this video is a very valuable document that should help us see some of the things about ourselves and our region more clearly than before. A big portion of the video is about the battles between Ottoman and westerners (mostly British) while some parts (part 12 and afterwards) discuss the issue of oil and its role in relations between the British and the nations of the region. Here is the link for all 22 parts that you can see on youtube:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't the story sound familiar?

When Muritala Mohammed was killed on 13 February 1976, suspicions were widespread that the CIA had a hand in assassination. This much is reflected in a secret report prepared by the U.S. Information Agency, the propaganda office that oversees VOA broadcasts and U.S. Information Service (USIS) installations around the world. The USIS 1976 Country Plan for Nigeria, declassified only five years ago, acknowledged that the political climate in Nigeria following Mohammed's assassination had been one of "uncertainty, distrust and suspicion." It further advised, "Charges of U.S. (CIA) backing for the attempted coup were prevalent [and] the Chancery and all USIS posts were physically attacked."

The USIS document leaves no doubt about American intentions toward Africa's most populous nation. Indeed, the same confidential report called Nigeria "the primary external source of crude oil for the United States," and repeatedly stressed the need for increased American influence.

Many of the State Department's Nigeria cables for the months prior to the assassination of Brig. Muritala Mohammed are still classified. Others, which have been released to investigators in recent years, are inconclusive. But the record nonetheless illustrates the paranoia that existed in the United States at the time about access to oil and about Nigeria's growing capability to influence the rest of the continent.

A 26 September 1975 communique complains, for instance, that Nigeria had supplied several thousands of dollars to leaders of the then-banned African National Congress in Lusaka. Another, written in January of 1976 and classified as "confidential," cited rhetoric heard with increasing frequency from Nigerian leaders about the "uncompromising supremacy of Nigeria's national interest," as well as opposition to what Mohammed himself had reportedly described as "blackmail and vicious propaganda" from the west.

Perhaps worst of all was the unpardonable sin committed by Mohammed when he declined an official visit by U.S. Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger which was proposed for May of 1976.

U.S.intelligence-gathering operations likewise escalated at an alarming pace during Mohammed's rule. In a 20 January 1976 cable from Lagos to Washington, for example, U.S. Ambassador Donald Easum warned:

"If Nigeria wants to use oil as a political weapon to promote its foreign policy, this would not necessarily involve further nationalisation. But could mean FMG is considering ways it might assert greater control over which consuming countries get Nigerian oil, depending on positions those countries take on foreign policies issues of interest to Nigeria. We understand several other possibly important papers/addresses delivered at senior officers meeting, reportedly including Un/Ife scholar's advocacy of Nigeria's using oil weapon. We and consul Ibadan will attempt obtain relevant papers and will report further if warranted."

And yet another secret dispatch, written less than two weeks before Mohammed was killed, hints that U.S. officials were prepared to sabotage Nigeria's booming economy. Nigeria, wrote Ambassador Easum on 2 February 1976, "desires to play leadership role, [and will] require modern army if its power (within African context) is to be credible. Further, it likely that given foreseeable internal political realities, Nigeria will maintain relatively large army for some time to come."

The same telegram listed a series of modern weapons likely to be acquired by the Nigerian government, and asserted the belief that a "civilian government might exercise a more restraint." But it ended on an even more bitter note:

"One development would act as a constraint on Nigerian arms purchases: a sharp drop in the price of petroleum. Defence budget would presumably have to be cut proportionately with fall in revenue if government were to meet minimum developmental and social demands on its resources. Easum."

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been a long time since I posted anything under this topic while there is a lot more to talk about in same subject. It is true that by now most people are familiar with this argument that oil has had a lot to do with the troubles that we had in our country but finding accurate historical information has always been so hard about related events that in many cases, has been mixed with a lot of misinformation which has been fed to public and even researchers to hide the truth.

"The Prize" by Daniel Yergin is one of the very rare books in which the author has been able to provide a lot of good information on the subject with great deal of details but it is definitely not far from deficiency in some areas which author has settled with publically available information but, overall conclusion about the issue in general which is mostly about behavior of theose behind the "Oil Empire" is accurate in my view and based on presented evidence.

As far as Daniel Yergin, there is enough material on the web for anyone who is interested to find out about him but this little peice of info on wicki can provide a brief insight to knowing him and his background and credentials. The book, is full of historical pictures and evidences which have not been seen in any other place and the author, through out his reseach, has been able to interview many of the people who were involved in the field, to gather his information in preparation of this and other books. And these have added a lot to the value of "The Prize" to make it an extremely valuable book on the subject.

Fortunately, I recently (a few moths ago) found out that an American public TV broadcast system has produced a great documentary based on this book which is about 8 hours in total and has been put on the web in 8 different segments. This documentary is also full of historical clips, photos and materials and although does not reflect all the details in the book but it covers most of it enough to understand the all major points. I post part one of this video to conclude this topic here. The rest is available from the link bellow.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Boycott BP Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Shah Of Iran Warning Over 30 Years Ago Ignored by Free World Reply with quote

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The Free World Did Not Listen To Shah Of Iran Warning Otherwise We Would Not Face The Global Warning and Oil Spill Today And Based On Many Facts We Think Shah Of Iran Deserves to Win Nobel Peace Prize Too ....

Why and How did we get here with Global Warming, Did Not Replace Oil With Clean/Safe Hydrogen and Today Islamist Mess?
Source URL: http://www.bookrags.com/1973_oil_crisis
The West could not continue to increase its energy use 5% annually, pay low oil prices, yet sell inflation-priced goods to the petroleum producers in the Third World. This was stressed by the Shah of Iran, whose nation was the world's second-largest exporter of oil and the closest ally of the United States in the Middle East at the time. "Of course [the world price of oil] is going to rise," the Shah told the New York Times in 1973. "Certainly! And how...; You [Western nations] increased the price of wheat you sell us by 300%, and the same for sugar and cement...; You buy our crude oil and sell it back to us, redefined as petrochemicals, at a hundred times the price you've paid to us...; It's only fair that, from now on, you should pay more for oil. Let's say ten times more."[2]

Characteristic Candor
Short Video Clip of Shah's Message to the Free Leaders Wake Up Call For Taking Too Many Sleeping Pills were ignored and After 33 Years Today We can see the result of Free World Leaders Mistakes


Secretary of the Treasury William E. Simon Said "The Shah is a nut." who is pushing for higher and higher oil prices Monday, Jul. 29, 1974

After 30 years of major Wars in Middle East, Islamist Terrorism and environmental disaster for planet earth the Environmentalist And Global Warming activists should consider the elected Free World leaders and Neo Colonialists who ignored the facts as real NUT because they were not faithful to the American founding fathers vision, principle, spirit of freedom, US constitution which are defined as below:

1- Have a secular democracy purpose
2- Have a Human Rights purpose
3- Have a Free Society purpose
4- Have a primary effect to increase freedom at global level.
5- Have the element of War Of Ideas to expand public awareness, education and expansion of truth.
6- Have an element of Freedom of Choice
7- Applying the U.S.A. Supreme Court accepted "Lemon test," to foreign policy decisions, strategy and conduct. According to the "Lemon test," in order to be constitutional, a law or public act must: a) Have a secular purpose. b) Have a primary effect that neither advances nor inhibits religion. c) Not result in excessive governmental entanglement with religion.
8- Move towards better unified global fair Justice System.

Over 2500 years ago The Ethical Persian Empire created by Cyrus The Great with the simple philosophy of Good Words, Good Thoughts and Good Deeds based on Human Rights and in past 30 years G8 countries policy towards Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan and others was based on Bad Words, Bad Thoughts, Bad Deeds, Extreme Greed , Ignored Human Rights, Not Support Secular Democracy Bribe and Support Islamic Fascist Occupiers Of Iran for Cheap Oil , exploitation of their resources and selling Arms for short term profit…..

Shah Of Iran like all other leaders of world is not without mistakes and one of his mistake was accepting wrong advise from both US and UK leaders not to give political freedom to Iranian people while allowing the Mullahs and Islamists to operate freely for wrong westeren fear factor from communism buble ….

After 60 years of free world leaders careless mistakes, it is time to remember Shah of Iran as honorable man of peace with correct policy and vision regarding Oil prices and if the free world leaders had accepted his correct vision the world would not face with the kind of Global Warming and Point Of No Return that we are facing today, Islamist Mafia network…
The Islamist Mafia Terror Networks started with planned and plotted Islamist Revolution coup in Iran , which directly connected to 2 Afghanistan Wars, 3 Iraqi Wars, Iran-Iraq War, Sept 11, Islamist Terrorism ....
The elected free world leaders and UN might not be able to solve the complex Global Warming problem in short period of time however they have good chance to stop expansion of Islamist Mafia terror network cancer now if we focus on regime change in Iran and stop appeasing Islamist minority in Iran and try our best to replace the Islamist Mafia system in Iran with Free Society and secular democracy before it becomes too late …. Accepting that Mr. Simon, and other Free World leaders who all failed us in past 30 years by ignoring the known facts is opening the new window for better understanding and strategy in future if we can increase public awareness for TRUTH without any dogma, hidden agenda and beginning of new Era …

Background Facts and Truth wrote:


The perspective we get on Earth, our planet appears to be big and sturdy with an endless ocean of air. From space, astronauts often get the impression that the Earth is small with a thin, fragile layer of atmosphere. For a space traveler, the distinguishing Earth features are the blue waters, brown and green land masses and white clouds set against a black background. We should love and respect our small beautiful mother earth planet.
Many dream of traveling in space and viewing the wonders of the universe. In reality all of us are space travelers. Our spaceship is the planet Earth, traveling at the speed of 108,000 kilometers (67,000 miles) an hour. In order to control unlimited human greed and power in this century we must educate ourselves that as long as men can not create self sufficient spaceship like earth we must be wise how we use the earth resources and men is not the only owner of this spaceship.
Global warming is a real and alarming event that is not being given the attention it deserves - awareness of this problem by public is the key for finding solution and avoiding to get worse than what it is Bleakest report ever on global warming
Almost 6 decades of cheap petroleum have had devastating effects on both the demand and the supply side of the world's energy balance. The great conservation efforts, originally launched in the aftermath of the 1973 Arab oil embargo and the resulting explosion in oil prices, have been abandoned. By 1975 even Americans, with their passion for large cars, were buying mostly so-called compacts with four-cylinder engines, and the smallest cars on the market were the ones most in demand.
We have to wonder what future generations are going to say about us if we can not stop this stupidity of careless free world politicians who are directly responsible for Global Warming of No Point of Return , this madness of our generation will get the blame for letting it happen. The Free World governments wrong greedy corrupt energy policies, our Cars, our City Planning , our Home Buildings, our office Buildings … are all based on cheap oil and energy with endless supply of energy without considering any side effects and consequences.

Watch Superb 30 Seconds Question By American Family For Presidential Candidates

Global Warming Facts by the Numbers Chilling statistics to Think About :
Source URL: http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?contentID=4981
* 1 Rank of 2005 as hottest year on record (tied with 1998), according to NASA.
* 100% Increase in intensity and duration of hurricanes and tropical storms since the 1970's, according to a 2005 MIT study.
* $100 Billion Estimate of damage caused by hurricanes hitting the U.S. coast in 2005 alone, according to the National Climatic Data Center.
* 2030 Year by which Glacier National Park will have no glaciers left, according to the U.S. Geological Survey predictions.
* 400,000 Square miles of Arctic sea ice that have melted in the last 30 years (roughly the size of Texas), threatening polar bear habitats and further accelerating global warming worldwide, according to the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment.
* 15-37% Amount of plant and animal species that global warming could wipe out by 2050.

Video Clip Global Warming: Point of No Return?

Past 30 Years Carbon Dioxide Increase :

Source URL: http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/

Admitting to A Problem, Root Causes and Accepting Mistakes Are The Best Steps Toward Finding A Better Solution In Future
Are They Hearing Us After 30 Years?
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:42 am    Post subject: Petition 66: Global International Change Request 1 Reply with quote

Petition 66: Global International Change Request 1- Tell Us Why 6 Million Dolphins Have Been Killed and Massacred In The Past 30 Years? And Why No Global Water Pollution Control Law?

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To: The Secretary-General of the United Nations, Elected Free World Leaders, Representative, and Human Rights Activists

We are outraged by the annual brutal slaughter of dolphins and whales that takes place in Japan and in the Faroe Islands Denmark. The images of bloody red water clearly show the world that Japan and Faroe Islands Denmark have little respect for the state of the world’s oceans and Dolphin rights to exist.

We demand that Japan and Denmark permanently and immediately renounce and stop dolphins slaughter. Please watch documentary video clips.[1]

How many dolphins do you think it is reasonable to kill in order to catch the Tuna fish?
In the past 30 years, 6,000,000 dolphins have been killed by "fishing on dolphins". [2]

The research, conducted at the Duke University Marine Laboratory (US) and the University of St. Andrews in Scotland (UK) estimate that approximately 308,000 dolphins, whales, and porpoises killed in fishing gear annually. [3]

When the total of 152 dolphins (79 in September and 73 in October 2007) were washed up on Iran's Persian Gulf, Jask coast “mass suicide” was blamed by officials news agency. Asking UN actions to stop severe oil pollution which poses serious threat to Persian Gulf ecosystem and corals, reported by BBC [1]. The precise cause of Persian Gulf dolphins’ tragedy by oil pollution or Navy Sonar has not been established yet and UN investigation is expected and required. [4]

If we knew the realities behind our choices, would take a step back and reconsider … Due to lack of comprehensive Unified International Mother Earth clean water act (ocean, sea, lakes, rivers, streams, wetlands, and ponds), we are asking our elected representative and UN to co-sponsor an important 360 degree clean water protection bill to stop over fishing and pollution, to clean Persian Gulf from oil pollution, to regulate harmful Navy Sonar systems, to establish international monitoring programs with the stringent "zero discharge" of pollutants into the mother earth’s waters, and integrated international community enforcement of water quality standards agreement.

We are also reminded by Albert Einstein, “The world is a dangerous place not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.”

We have learned from the Epic of Kings masterpiece by Ferdowsi (935-1020) the world famous great Persian poet: "Crush not even the tiny ant that beareth a grain of corn, for she hath life, and sweet life is a boon."

Now as a first step for the Real Global Change please sign, support, and distribute this petition to increase public awareness and global actions to promote Dolphin Rights to the same level of Human Rights. Due to the complexity of this major global problem domain, our active participation, and global dialogue is required and if you have a new innovating solution, brilliant idea, actions or recommendations please consider to share it with public in the comments section of this petition.

[1] Must Watch Integrated Video Clips Global International Change Request 1 to Save Dolphins from Massacre:
- Watch Faroe Denmark and Taiji Japan Islanders Dolphins Massacre video clips
- Investigation of 152 dolphins killed in Persian Gulf by oil pollution or Navy Sonar
- Navy high-intensity Sonar effect on Dolphins...

[2] The Tuna/Dolphin Controversy by the FOR SEA marine science curriculum and teacher training program:
[3] Press Release - 308,000 Whales, Dolphins and Porpoises Killed in Fishing Gear Annually, New Study Shows: http://www.worldwildlife.org/who/media/press/2003/WWFPresitem625.html
[4] Iran alarmed by mass dolphin deaths
[5] Thread discussion DOLPHIN Massacre In Faroe Islands Denmark

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject: BP backed coup in support of Ayatollah Khomeni Reply with quote

Professor Norman D. Livergood,(who has an impressive educational background -Ph.D., Yale University, 1961, Philosophy, Ph.D., Union Institute, 1989, Artificial Intelligence, …….) in the following URL http://www.hermes-press.com/impintro1.htm states:

"In 1979, the Standard Oil-backed Shah of Iran was thrown out by a British-backed coup and the long-time British asset, Ayatollah Khomeni, put into power. The flow of Russian oil through Iran suddenly stopped. Other oil pipelines were constructed through Iraq and Turkey. The Russian oil was now called OPEC Arabian-Middle Eastern oil and marketed at the even higher "spot market" price. So in 1979, in America and Europe, we suddenly experienced gasoline shortages and huge increases in the price of gasoline. Also in 1979 Standard Oil-Russian oil interests tried to secure an alternate, short, safe oil pipeline route from Russia through neighboring Afghanistan, but this only resulted in a prolonged war and the project was abandoned. "

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Seize BP Days of Action Reply with quote

Watch Smart American Youth Outrage and Peaceful Protest Against BP Oil Spill .. These are Video clips from Smart American People Action Solution :
Seize BP Assets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OetHuyeSDnc&feature=PlayList&p=C6D70CF743137DCC&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1

Based on dirty history of BP with many violations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP and helping corrupt Islamist regime and Human Rights violators in the world this is considered as a correct step in the right direction ...
If an American Physician make the intentional negligence to increase his profit then they cancel his license to practice Medicine … Why the US government does not apply the same rules against BP Oil Spill Catastrophic disaster with many bad deeds in past 60 years …. ???

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Seize BP Days of Action
Demonstrations happening in more than 50 cities
Thursday, June 3 - Saturday, June 5


The greatest environmental disaster with no end in sight! Eleven workers dead. Millions of gallons of oil gushing for months (and possibly years) to come. Jobs vanishing. Creatures dying. A pristine environment destroyed for generations. A mega-corporation that has lied and continues to lie, and a government that refuses to protect the people.

When the bill comes due, BP will pick up and leave town. The corporation will be “reorganized” or dissolved with its assets handed over to some other conglomerate before it has to pay out. Its executives will be paid handsomely; the people whose lives it has destroyed will be left to suffer.

From Thursday, June 3 to Saturday, June 5, actions will take place across the country to demand: Seize BP! We will be organizing demonstrations in more than 50 cities to protest the mounting economic and environmental damage from BP’s offshore oil drilling and to demand that BP’s assets be immediately seized and put in trust.

The much-hyped “top kill” has failed. For several days, BP continued to build up the belief that the operation might be working when it already knew it was doomed. The Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen spoke like a true BP company man repeatedly telling the public that the operation was succeeding.

The reality is that, faced with a preventable crisis for which it had no contingency plan, BP is now trying to buy time by spewing lies to cover up the spewing oil. The “lower marine riser package cap” about to be tried actually risks increasing the flow of oil. The drilling of a relief well will be completed no sooner than August, and it may not be successful then.

BP has no intention of picking up the tab for the destruction it has caused. The communities of the Gulf region whose livelihoods have been destroyed cannot rely on BP to come to the rescue. The Seize BP Campaign is demanding that the government seize BP's assets and place them in a trust to be used to provide for compensation and damages.

Actions are taking place in Fort Lauderdale, New Orleans, Austin, Washington D.C., Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle and many more. We will be posting the Thursday – Saturday actions on SeizeBP.org, so please click here and let us know your plans so we can help get the word out on the website.

NO CAP – No Immunity for BP!

Just over a week ago, Seize BP launched the No Cap on Damages campaign, which is having a major impact. More and more in Congress are moving to support lifting damages—but we are not there yet. Take a moment now to send a letter to your elected official telling them that BP must not be granted immunity from damages.

The Oil Pollution Act of 1990 caps damages for oil companies responsible for offshore drilling accidents at $75 million on top of recovery costs. Some in Congress have suggested creating a higher cap—but there should be no immunity at all! They caused the damage, they must pay for it. BP rakes in over $90 million dollars a day in pure profit—that’s money after all their “expenses” including their wealthy executive salaries and perks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: US has launched criminal probe into BP oil spill Reply with quote


US has launched criminal probe into BP oil spill
(AFP) – 1 hour ago

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana — The United States has launched both a civil and criminal investigation into the massive oil spill gushing out of a BP-leased rig, US Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday.

"We will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law anyone who has violated the law," Holder told reporters in New Orleans. "We will not rest until justice is done."

Holder said the criminal probe began "some weeks ago" but declined to elaborate on what kind of charges could be laid.

Holder's remarks came hours after President Barack Obama Tuesday threatened legal action against those to blame for unleashing the nation's worst ever oil spill, as BP once again battled to stop the six-week leak.

"If our laws were broken leading to this death and destruction, my solemn pledge is that we will bring those responsible to justice on behalf of the victims of this catastrophe and the people of the Gulf region," Obama vowed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: BP Is Partially Responsible For Creating Islamist Regime in Reply with quote

BP with direct support and Backing from British Government Played a Big Role In Creating Islamist Regime in Iran

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His Excellency Late Abod-Houssein Meftah 1899-1991.

Senior Iranian diplomat & Ambassador in many countries including Tunisia, India, Holland, Germany & Norway. Acting Foreign Minister under Mossadegh & late General Zahedi. A Great Iranian thinker, a legendary figure, politician and patriot In an audience with the members of the British Parliament
in 1984, his Excellency late Mr. Meftah said the followings:

1- Every brick falls in this war, we hold Britain (added for readers clarification- BP Oil Servant and Islamist Mullah Boss) responsible. [A]
2- Every blood shed in Iran, we hold Britain (added for readers clarification- BP Oil Servant and Islamist Mullah Boss) responsible.
3- Every single life perishes in Iran we hold Britain (added for readers clarification-BP Oil Servant and Islamist Mullah Boss) responsible.
4- You (added for readers clarification- BP Oil Servant and Islamist Mullah Boss) have imposed khomeini's madness on Iran.
5- You Britain (added for readers clarification- BP Oil Servant and Islamist Mullah Boss) have created this mess for us.
6- You Britain (for clarification BP Oil Servant and Islamist Mullah Boss) brought the Mullahs to power.
7- You Britain (added for readers clarification- BP Oil Servant and Islamist Mullah Boss) are responsible for the pain and suffering our
8- You Britain (added for readers clarification- BP Oil Servant and Islamist Mullah Boss) have created this war and you are prolonging it. [A]
9- You Britain (added for readers clarification- BP Oil Servant and Islamist Mullah Boss) are destroying Iran and we will hold Britain accountable.
Iranians will not forget nor forgive.

[A] Reference to the 8 year long Iran/Iraq war.


TRUTH HAS NO COLOUR By His Excellency Late A. H. Meftah

Strived by: H. E. Ambassador H. Hakimi
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Dolphins Killed Because of BP Oil Spill Reply with quote

BP contract worker said "When we found this dolphin it was filled with oil. Oil was just pouring out of it. It was the saddest darn thing to look at,"

Due to the fact that I and over 600 people who signed the following peti...tion
over 2 years ago, we believe Dolphin Rights == Human Rights therefore any Dolphins killed as a results of the BP Oil Spill will be added to 11 killed on the Oil Rig .... I and many others consider the BP Oil Spill as Eco System Terrorist Act against Mother Earth and USA….
The damages of BP Oil Spill Criminal Act due to greed and negligence of BP to the fragile environment, freedom loving American people … are not any less than WTC 911 …
Dolphin Rights == Human Rights
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