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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:53 pm    Post subject: London & Paris flooded with looted Iranian antiquities Reply with quote

Source Of Information: H. Hakimi Email Broadcast

London and Paris markets flooded with looted Iranian antiquities
Thousands of objects have been plundered from a newly discovered site at Jiroft


By Edek Osser

JIROFT, IRAN. In January 2001 a group of Iranians from Jiroft in the southwestern province of Kerman stumbled upon an ancient tomb. Inside they found a hoard of objects decorated with highly distinctive engravings of animals, mythological figures and architectural motifs.

They did not realise it at the time but they had just made one of the most remarkable archaeological discoveries of recent years, one that is radically altering accepted notions of the development of the world’s earliest civilisations in Iran and Mesopotamia between the fourth and third millennia BC.

A few weeks after the discovery, officials from Iran’s Ministry of Culture, vastly out numbered by local people, watched hopelessly as thousands systematically dug up the area. The locals set up a highly organised impromptu system to manage the looting: each family was allocated an equal plot of six square-metres to dig.

This organised pillaging continued for an entire year. Dozens of tombs were discovered, some containing up to 60 objects, and thousands of ancient objects were removed. All of these were destined for overseas markets.
In February 2002 Iran’s Islamic police finally arrived in force to stop the destruction. Some 2,000 objects were confiscated from locals in Jiroft and other hoards of the ancient artefacts ready to be shipped overseas were seized in Tehran and at Bandar Abbas.

The objects confiscated by the police are unlike anything ever seen before by archaeologists. Many are made from chlorite, a grey-green soft stone, others are in copper, bronze, terracotta, even lapis lazuli. They are now being studied by a group of Iranian archaeologists led by Professor Yousef Madjidzadeh. Official excavation of the site began in February 2003. It is focusing on both the necropolis, which was looted extensively, and on an ancient settlement not discovered by the looters.

The finds at Jiroft were first publicised last August when an illustrated catalogue of some of the objects was circulated at a conference in Tehran (Yousef Majidzadeh, Jiroft: the earliest Oriental civilisation, Organisation of the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance, Tehran, 2003).

But much of the damage done at Jiroft is irreversible: the tombs that were plundered were completely emptied and hoards of the artefacts have already appeared for sale in Europe. In 2002 vases from the site were offered for sale at Drouot in Paris and, according to market specialists, the artefacts are on offer with several dealers in France. They are usually catalogued as vases from “Kerman” or with the more generic description of “Middle Eastern”.

A group of some 80 Jiroft artefacts was known to be on offer in London last year with a price tag of £600,000. An important group, seen by the author of this article, is now being offered for sale in a prominent London gallery. The dealer said that he is worried about the growing number of fake Jiroft vases now circulating on the market. These could be the work of the very same locals who looted the site in the first place and have access to the same chlorite quarries of their ancestors.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a tragedy.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:02 pm    Post subject: s Reply with quote

Spenta wrote:
This is a tragedy.

Sad


Those bastards - also, blaming it on the Iranian people.. I highly doubt that is the case.. Likely the regime dug it up and made the money off selling them.. the regime has no interest in preserving the greatness of our civilization... Rise up and defend freedom and our country!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:23 am    Post subject: Why not the locals? Reply with quote

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Those bastards - also, blaming it on the Iranian people.. I highly doubt that is the case.. Likely the regime dug it up and made the money off selling them.. the regime has no interest in preserving the greatness of our civilization... Rise up and defend freedom and our country!!!!


Why do you doubt that it was locals who did this? Maybe they needed the money. Because it was so well-organized? The fact that these findings were taken out of the country is a national loss. Any chance of redeeming these artifacts? [/quote]
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Why not the locals? Reply with quote

TeachESL wrote:


Those bastards - also, blaming it on the Iranian people.. I highly doubt that is the case.. Likely the regime dug it up and made the money off selling them.. the regime has no interest in preserving the greatness of our civilization... Rise up and defend freedom and our country!!!!

Why do you doubt that it was locals who did this? Maybe they needed the money. Because it was so well-organized? The fact that these findings were taken out of the country is a national loss. Any chance of redeeming these artifacts?

> Why do you doubt that it was locals who did this?

For over a year that specific region of Jiroft close to BAM was under the control of Rafsanjani and other Clerics Armed Mafia Islamic Gangs and ordinary Iranian people from Jiroft had no access to the area.

- The ordinary Iranian people are not armed only the Islamic Clerical Regime Gangs are armed.

- In Police State the ordinary Iranian people can not send 1000s of pieces out of country to London and Paris. I am sure both London and Paris Police force have detail information regarding this matter and these sort of things can not happen without their blessing.

-....

This is not very simple case as it is presented by the author, there are more to it. Please review the following post:
http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=356

To know all the facts regarding this case, the independent Journalist investigation is required
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:00 pm    Post subject: Pre-Islamic Culture Reply with quote

Now that I think of it, what a perfect way to get rid of all the evidence of pre-Islamic culture. Dont these places in London and Paris have the moral obligation to return these artificats? Isn't that what was done with the artifacts stolen from Iraqi museums?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Pre-Islamic Culture Reply with quote

TeachESL wrote:
Now that I think of it, what a perfect way to get rid of all the evidence of pre-Islamic culture. Dont these places in London and Paris have the moral obligation to return these artificats? Isn't that what was done with the artifacts stolen from Iraqi museums?


did someone say moral obligation? -- I'll just leave that one alone Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:24 pm    Post subject: Quote Frame Reply with quote

Excuse me, how do you put somebody's words in that box? I pressed 'Quote' before I pasted the words in but it didn't work. And what are all those other buttons: Code, List, List=, Img
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quotte]write the text[/quote].
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:53 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

[quote]write the text[/quote]

Thanks. (hope it works!)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:53 am    Post subject: Fooey Reply with quote

It didn't work! Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Chaya, you should click on "quote" and it will automatically will report the user's message..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="stefania"]Dear Chaya, you should click on "quote" and it will automatically will report the user's message..[/quote]

Like this, Stef?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:33 am    Post subject: Oof!! Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:34 am    Post subject: Trying Again Reply with quote

[quote="stefania"]Dear Chaya, you should click on "quote" and it will automatically will report the user's message..[/quote]

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