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sudi



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: Islamic Paradise Reply with quote

Got this from a friend:

http://www.sumka.org/islamic_paradise_e.htm

I'm reminded of Ferdowsi's words said by Rostam-e Farokhzad
"Ze shire shotor khordan-o soosmar
Arab ra be jayee residast kar
ke taj-e- kian ra konad arezoo"

Translation:
"From drinking camel milk & eating lizards of the desert,
Arab got so bold, that now,
Dreams of capturing the Persian Crown!"

Sudi
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"Ze shire shotor khordan-o soosmar
Arab ra be jayee residast kar
ke taj-e- kian ra konad arezoo"


tofoo bar to ey charkh e gardoon tofoo.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your friend is in the national socialist Iranian workers party? I agree with some of the stuff they say but as a whole they seem extremely faschist.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Equality wrote:
your friend is in the national socialist Iranian workers party? I agree with some of the stuff they say but as a whole they seem extremely faschist.


No he's not. And I agree the group seems somewhat fanatical. But they're still correct about the tyrannical regime of the mullahs, and the link I posted does portray the Islamic regime's "evil".
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear you Sudi. I once got pretty bashed up in a forum for posting that exact link Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about your experience. That's why I like this forum ... people share a common goal and minor differences are just that, minor.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with their anti-Islamic (Regime) information..

What disturbs me is the word "National Socialist"

It reminds me of a regime in Europe that was national socialist..

however, i wanna believe that this party is not what i think.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Specially, where this "movement" states.

"Our fight is dedicated to our motherland, the Greater Iran and our race, the Iranian (Aryan) race. At the same time, We have to fight for the freedom of the world against Arabization, Freemasonry, Globalization, Communism, Westernization and Zionism."

I think their rethoric is not different from nazism
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, but i don't like this movement.. It is fascist, whereas it says fascist things..

I don't think that the shah thought of these things before..
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The slogans of this movement sound very similar to the mullahs' ,whose goal is destroy the innocent jews..

This movement also forgets Cyrus and Darius' great friendship with the Jews..

Those that are destroying Iran are the arabs.

Jews never harmed an Iranian.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe me Stefania, no one here advocates what this group preaches. As I understand, Sumka has been around since 1940's or 50's, with little (or no) following. If my initial post suggested that I agree with and approve of their manifesto, I am sorry, that was not my intention.

With that said (and in keeping with the subject and category of this post), I will reiterate that their depiction of the 'Islamic Paradise' is not an exaggerated one ... those images are real and they are disturbing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes dear,it's the only thing i like of their website..

but their agenda is anti-semit..

i know that they are an old and not popular party.

I know that the majority of the Iranians believe in Cyrus and Darius' teachings..These two great Kings have supported the Jews and saved them from babylon.

Long Live the Persian Civilization.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stefania wrote:

Those that are destroying Iran are the arabs.

Jews never harmed an Iranian.


I don't mean to interfere, again. Arabs and Jews both descended from the ancient Samites. So technically if you say anti-arab statements, you are being anti-semetic. Sorry about busting in with historical accuracy again.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to disagree with you Sourena. The meaning anti-semetic is primarily anti-jewish as it was intended to be. The guy who invented the word in 1879, Wilhelm Marr, didn't have enough knowledge and named the Jews as a race of its own.

In it's own sence, anti-semetic would mean both Israelis and Arabs, because they both speak semetic languages. But the word was invented to mean anti-jewish and still does to this day. So it's a common fact that anti-semetic means anti-jewish and not anti-Arab.
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